I'm going to be a college soph next year. I'm building up to some big miles and am hitting 80+ this week. However, next week I'm forced to go to Michigan with my family. We will be on Lake Cherlevoit(sp). I have no idea where I can run to get in the miles I'll need to get in. I hate the idea of dropping the mileage even a hair. Does anyone else not like traveling for this reason. I don't mind the area. Its beautiful, but I am not familiar with any routes to run. Anyone else have this problem?
Get a watch and time your runs. 7 min = 1 mile, that way you will be hitting at least 80 a week (considering that most of your runs are probably quicker than 7 min miles).
If not adjust accordingly...
No, I love running in new locations and totally can't relate. Usually just head out the door, start the watch, and explore.
Is the issue, like the second poster suggests, just that you don't know exact mileages? Or do you always run the same routes and hate breaking those routines? Or do you actually worry that you won't find enough road or trail to run on?
I hate traveling wrote:
I'm going to be a college soph next year. I'm building up to some big miles and am hitting 80+ this week. However, next week I'm forced to go to Michigan with my family. We will be on Lake Cherlevoit(sp). I have no idea where I can run to get in the miles I'll need to get in. I hate the idea of dropping the mileage even a hair. Does anyone else not like traveling for this reason. I don't mind the area. Its beautiful, but I am not familiar with any routes to run. Anyone else have this problem?
You're going to have to deal with this if you plan to keep running once you get out into the working world. When we're in a good training rhythm we don't like anything that upsets the flow, like traveling. Yet you can turn it around to your advantage. I find that I have had some great runs in new places. I don't know why, but I think the fact that running in a new place is a little more interesting puts a little more charge into me. Running the same routes over and over again can be a mental drain.
The best thing you can do is make sure you get up early each day and get at least one good work out in. That will at least make your day enjoyable as you're not worrying all day long as to when and where you're going to run.
Don't worry if you don't quite get in the mileage you normally get in. One week is no big deal. And remember, this is your family. Ten years from now you won't remember how many miles you ran next week or even what the workouts were. But you probably will have some good memories of being on vacation with your family.
Running is running. Family is family.
You're a fool son, Charlevoix is one of the nicest places you could expect to train, great cool weather, plenty of trails, excellent hilly terrain. I couldn't imagine a better place to go on a running vacation in Michigan. You're being a whiny little b*tch, seriously. Stop being a pansy, get out there and enjoy exploring...Charlevoix has a great running tradition btw...dominated the state in Cross-country for a couple decades, kept CMU supplied with college runners for a while, and MSU's coach(Walt Drenth) is also from there. A young man named Ryan Shay is from down the road a piece. Use this for what it's worth, an opportunity for you to become an adaptive runner, which you will have to become if you ever want to succeed.
I'm also from the area(up the coast a bit in Petoskey), so feel free to e-mail me if you can't find places to run, but it really truly should not be a problem!
You put in a BIG week leading up to the trip and then during the trip, you let your legs recover. Then when you get back home you will be ready to hit it again.
it's a v a c a t i o n !
Half the reason I like going on Vacation is so that I can run in new places. When I was competing in college, my family took a trip down to florida durring the summer, I was worried about getting my 60 mile week in. My parents were really supportive of my training so we stopped in Tennessee on the way down so I could squeak in a quick 8, and then we stopped on the way back in georgia so i get another 8 in. I also ran each day in florida, made up a few routes of my own and enjoyed exploring new areas.
It doesn't have to hurt your training, in fact, it's probably nice to break it up a bit.
Traveling for work sucks because you're usually staying in a hotel near the interstate, and you're schedule is crammed with meetings or flight/travel time.
Traveling on vacation is great! Any place where there is water - even better! Run, swim, relax. Heck, if it's a vacation, I can usually get in more miles than when I'm at home.
You can usually find out more about an area by running than by driving. It's fun to run and explore. If you're really uptight about the mileage, get one of those garmins or use gmaps to figure out your miles.
I hate traveling wrote:
I'm going to be a college soph next year. I'm building up to some big miles and am hitting 80+ this week. However, next week I'm forced to go to Michigan with my family. We will be on Lake Cherlevoit(sp). I have no idea where I can run to get in the miles I'll need to get in. I hate the idea of dropping the mileage even a hair. Does anyone else not like traveling for this reason. I don't mind the area. Its beautiful, but I am not familiar with any routes to run. Anyone else have this problem?
Gee, what a huge life changing problem you have on your hands. Here's some advice; Quit being a whining selfish little asshole.
Get some priorities you jackass. These times with your family are precious and running should be well down your priorities for a week. Finding a place to run there is simple.
Look at it another way. Your parents went through the trouble of getting this vacation together and it means a lot to them, more than you'll ever know. Quit being so selfish and think of them for a change.
I've run in so many places, but mostly in Michigan, I must say thogh, that NW Michigan is the best place to run.
Yeah, I second some of the comments above ... if small things like that are gonna throw you off then small things are always gonna throw you off ... I've had some of my best runs while travelling during long marathon training build-ups ... damn, once I was in Paris when I had to get in a 20-miler, so I got a map of the city, mapped out as close to a 10-mile loop as I could measure, woke early on a sunday so there wouldn't be much Paris traffic, put two of the hotel plastic cups full of water in front of the hotel, then got out there and ran a hard 20-miler ... there wasn't hardly a sole on the paris streets at 6 am on a sunday ... another time I was in Mexico City ... took a cab to the '68 Olympic Stadium, then ran 15K straight on one road back to the hotel, amidst a non-stop throng of roadside venders, buses, cars, and people ... absolutely insane ... the all-time best, however, example, of being adaptive for your workout was in NYC, when I jogged out to Randalls Island to do 20x400 ... the track wasn't accessible sine there was a huge Puerto Rican festival, partof which covered the track... I snuck into the stadium, and ran at the top of the stadum (u shape) ... at the finish end there was a huge group of kids smoking pot ... after every interval I was breathing the fumes, absolutely insane ... anwyway, just some rantings on being adaptive ....
Use the gmap pedometer or other similar program if you're really that desperate to plan routes. I used it when I was going out of town once, and, with its elevation chart, was even able to avoid a couple really rough hills on routes I was planning for my easy days (I was up in the mountains). In short, I was able to plan a couple very good routes sight-unseen.
That said, I agree that you should leave at least a couple runs for exploring, esp. given where your vacation is.
I hate traveling wrote:
I'm going to be a college soph next year. I'm building up to some big miles and am hitting 80+ this week. However, next week I'm forced to go to Michigan with my family. We will be on Lake Cherlevoit(sp). I have no idea where I can run to get in the miles I'll need to get in. I hate the idea of dropping the mileage even a hair. Does anyone else not like traveling for this reason. I don't mind the area. Its beautiful, but I am not familiar with any routes to run. Anyone else have this problem?
my entire family died in a horrible plane crash on a vacation flight to mexico's copper canyon. now i'm all alone because i wanted to stay home and play dungeons and dragons instead. sometimes i just want to flail.
"Stop being a pansy, get out there and enjoy exploring...Charlevoix has a great running tradition btw...dominated the state in Cross-country for a couple decades, kept CMU supplied with college runners for a while, and MSU's coach(Walt Drenth) is also from there. A young man named Ryan Shay is from down the road a piece. Use this for what it's worth, an opportunity for you to become an adaptive runner, which you will have to become if you ever want to succeed."
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I agree with most of what you said except when you got to the point about Charlevoix dominating cross country for decades. They were good but Rogers City beat them many times in the 70s and 80s.
The only people who have this problem are douchebags like yourself. You are a total loser, and I suspect when you're not running the same friggin route every day, you and your other loser friend hang out in your parent's basement and have sword fights while your jean shorts are around your ankles. If I were your parents, I'd leave your sorry ass at home.
Try going on vacation with a couple of infants.
What week are you going to be there?... I am going on my family vacation there on July 29-August 3