Burnout? i think not!!!

Your coach is a dipshit. Solinsky had one bad race but has, I believe, FIVE NCAA Division 1 Individual Championships. How can you argue against those results?

i'm not quite sure how he argues against those. i think he just says stuff like, "yeah but he'll never amount to anything after college." i say that's crap. even assuming he never gets any better, he's not getting worse and his times now are good enough for international competition.

Your coach can't stop YOU from running 90mpw this summer....

SO prove him wrong.

oh believe me i plan on it! i'll be doing morning runs and crap too cuz he won't let us break 7 min/miles on training runs either. as you can guess, we're pretty much the worst team ever. i was the first guy we ever sent in 6 years (and that kid had to run on his own i believe) and i was only around 17:20 on my 5k. after me, the next fastest runner was like 18:20 and then the next 3 were around 18:40. we're a d1 school for crying out loud.

Let's pretend Solinsky will never run a step after college which won't happen, but lets pretend. He has accomplished more than 99.999% of runners will in an entire lifetime. Point is, if he stopped now he would still have had a hell of a career. The reason for those accomplishments is hard training, high mileage and talent.

Solinski lives - I've had people like your coach say the same stuff about runners, they train to hard, train the wrong way. To be honest most of this is a reaction due to jealousy and the understanding that they didn't train hard enough in their prime.

Train hard and prove him wrong.

I give all the credit in the world to you if you can handle 90MPW. But if you've been sitting at 35 why don't you shoot for 50-60 first. You'll still get a lot better and you'll be a lot less likely to get hurt. 90MPW isn't something you just jump into. It's something you achieve with time.

I like it when coeches say "where is a kid who runs 90-100 miles/week going to take his mileage in college?"

For Solinsky, the answer was: "120-130"

Agree if you have the guts to do it - go ahead. But increase slowly and consistantly. Devise your own training schedule and watch for signs of burnout. Listen to your mind and body and rest if needed. Other elite runners agree with a consistant high mileage throughout the year- and look where it gets them!

Your coach needs to realise that everyone is different and individual and therefore plan sessions/schedules accordingly.

Get out there and prove him wrong- good luck and always give 101%.

If you have the talent Solinski has it doesn't matter what you did in high school. So he ran 90 miles a week and 8:45. Doesn't seem to have hurt him.

Coaches who look to those who ran a lot and didn't improve are barking up the wrong tree. There are those who may not have been born with the gift Solinski did and did big mileage and level off after high school. Those kids wouldn't have been near a top D1 program as a recruit if they hadn't rolled the dice in high school. The training they did didn't kill them, they just reached the limits of their potential sooner.

Bob Kennedy who ran 35 miles a week in high school, won Footlocker, and ran 4:04 could have probably broke Nelson's 2 mile record if he had amped it up a little sooner. Big deal compared to what he went on to do. Didn't matter, as long as he kept progressing that wouldn't have made a difference to where he ended up. Some people are just damn good.

However, in the larger scheme of things, the more young people we have training harder will raise the standards and more kids will have an easier time adapting in college and some will level off, others will go on, but the end result will be that the bar will be raised, runners will have to hit high standards sooner.

There is a fear that heavy training during the teenage years can hurt a career and prevent any runner from reaching their top potential but I have never heard a real physiologically based argument to how this occurs.

What kills young runners is massive anaerobic intervals for 9 months straight.

Yes, massive intervals with no base.

Your coach is correct...all runners who train at an intense level burnout.

Its just a question of, "....WHEN..."

And that depends on the individual.

Hey I live just outside of WI Rapids!

For Solinsky: Yes, a 13:35 5k is also signs of a burnout....not

Agree with 800 dude.