Why ethanol is a waste of time.

Nuclear power!

What if we nuked China and India back into the stone age?

Now, this is the peeps we all know and love/hate!

But you are right about ethanol. It's at best a tiny fraction of a solution -- a fraction that could much more easily be 'solved' by driving less and less aggressively. Seriously, my MPG has gone up from 18 to 23 (all city) since I stopped jack-rabbiting away from green lights and just started paying attention to what is going on ahead of me so I don't have to accelerate-brake-accelerate-brake all the time. Laugh and call me a slow-ass Subaru driver if you want, but it does make a big difference.

Large solar electric facilities can also be made with mirrors heating water, but you feel free to live like a hermit if you want to.

I think it would be safe too say that every American together cutting something wasted or unnecessary would free up the resources needed to shift our energy production to solar and nuclear. There is, after all, a huge amount of money in this country.

well then we'd have enough oil.

but most likely they'd nuke Japan, Hawaii, Alaska, and the entire west coast.

The world would go into an extreme 10 year economic depression, and things would get better after that.

So basically you'd lose your job, and anyone in Cali, Alaska, and Hawaii, and other U.S allies within missile shot of China and India would be nuked.

Not really an alternative.

-oh yeah- The U.S wouldn't be trusted again for about 500 years. And they'd probably hit our fleets in the Persian Gulf, and the Middle East would descend into civil war/war without our armies/navy there.

I love peeps wrote:

well then we'd have enough oil.

but most likely they'd nuke Japan, Hawaii, Alaska, and the entire west coast.

The world would go into an extreme 10 year economic depression, and things would get better after that.

So basically you'd lose your job, and anyone in Cali, Alaska, and Hawaii, and other U.S allies within missile shot of China and India would be nuked.

Not really an alternative.

-oh yeah- The U.S wouldn't be trusted again for about 500 years. And they'd probably hit our fleets in the Persian Gulf, and the Middle East would descend into civil war/war without our armies/navy there.

Yeah, but we'd conserve our corn.

Bloggy wrote:

Now, this is the peeps we all know and love/hate!

But you are right about ethanol. It's at best a tiny fraction of a solution -- a fraction that could much more easily be 'solved' by driving less and less aggressively. Seriously, my MPG has gone up from 18 to 23 (all city) since I stopped jack-rabbiting away from green lights and just started paying attention to what is going on ahead of me so I don't have to accelerate-brake-accelerate-brake all the time. Laugh and call me a slow-ass Subaru driver if you want, but it does make a big difference.

I did the same and now I get 38-42 mpg in my Civic when before it was 35-38. Don't accelerate too much, coast downhill and take turns a little quicker and you'll get better mileage in the city.

have you seen oil prices, already peaked... you're republican aren't you?

and a dumbass

fghtg wrote:

have you seen oil prices, already peaked... you're republican aren't you?

and a dumbass

You really think oil prices have peaked? Not even close.

Then you would not be able to buy anything - especially electronics. Aside from some a few technology cities, India is in the stone age.

googlerific wrote:

What if we nuked China and India back into the stone age?

MSK wrote:

You really think oil prices have peaked? Not even close.

he's not talking about peak oil price. he's talking about "peak oil" and the hubbert curve.

Even if oil production increases, oil prices will go up.

I don't think people get this concept.

Demand is too high and growing too fast. It is doing so even in this country. The cost of pulling the same amount of oil out of the ground is doubling every few years.

High energy costs are here to stay. The only way you're going to make money in the future is find out a way to use less energy.

The same thing that is happening with oil, is happening with Natural gas. And Coal. And uranium. And biofuels. And Copper, nickel, Iron. And Aluminum. And everything else.

Its a natural resource reality.

Even fish and game stocks have declined around the world and will continue too.

Everything is declining as the human population expands. Its a recipe for disaster. And its much worse than anyone thinks. In 50 years, this planet will be very different than it is now.

Ethanol is a horrible fuel. It is not cost efficient without incredibly high government subsidies. The only reason the government is subsidizing it is because Iowa has the first presidential caucus in the nation.