Impressive.
How would you progress this kid? Obviously there is no need to rush. He is already a section champion and running faster than 99% of all high schoolers.
Coming from Mikel Thomas, that is quite a complement, considering he went to FL
i would make sure you do something...there is a kid right now who is ajunior and he is about 2 seconds faster than he was as a frosh when he ran 9:06...9:04 for a junior is pretty disappointing when you run 9:06 as a freshman
bump him up to 30.
cross training, swimming, joint strengthening, emphasis on speed development if he has any. if he doesn't, wait a two months before bumping him up to 40.
I think the key questions are, how developed is he an adult in a 14 year olds body? and how fast can he run a 200.
don't fix it.
Teammates on the Dyestat thread said he runs 3 miles, 6 times per week.
I'd say, take 3 of those runs up to 4 miles, but leave all else alone. Then take all the runs up to 4 miles, or at least maintain at 24 mpw.
The thread indicated that he was doing speedwork once a week. I'd drop that until he was comfortable at 24 mpw then re-introduce it. I probably wouldn't go much higher than that for all of XC season.
Bob Kennedy ran only 35-40 mpw as a high schooler. That didn't seem to hurt his long term development
I hope you are kidding about only jumping his mileage up 6 miles a week.
That is way too fast! They'll throw money at the kid. They will make him run in the Olympics. Makes ya wanna cry, don't it?
No, actually I wasn't kidding.
I was thinking that after cross, he could take a break, then go up to 30 to prep for sophomore track season
Then to 36-40 to prep for Junior year in XC
Then 45-50 building up for Junior year in track.
Then 50-60 building up for cross as a senior.
Then 55-70 building up for track as a senior.
I remember Amby Burfoot posting about this same kid a while back after he had raced a quick time at Stanford. If I remember correctly he seemed to have the inside scoop on this kids training because he knew his coach or something. Perhaps he could weigh in some more? I'd be shocked to believe 18mpw.
The Coach B from gatfxc.
Are you coach B from gatfxc?
CoachB wrote:
No, actually I wasn't kidding.
I was thinking that after cross, he could take a break, then go up to 30 to prep for sophomore track season
Then to 36-40 to prep for Junior year in XC
Then 45-50 building up for Junior year in track.
Then 50-60 building up for cross as a senior.
Then 55-70 building up for track as a senior.
is this a joke?
Amby Burfoot is Coach Jeff Billing's uncle. As for his "light" training load, remember that he was injured off and on for much of the cross country season. There's no point in doing more than your body can handle. I'd say it's much better to run less and be able to finish the season rather than try to do too much and get hurt. Does he need to do more in the future to get to the next level? Of course, but he has plenty of time to get there.
Bump
This is letsrun. We should expect posts claiming the kid should be rounding out 90 mpw as a junior.
No. I am being dead serious. Which part of it seems unrealistic?
PS.
I am not the same Coach B from gatfxc or whatever that is. I am the Coach B from Hughson High School.
We have a similar phenom in our league who ran a 4:21 as a freshman with no cross country season and no winter track. He ran 4:32 off 3 weeks of training and 4:21 at the end of the season.
He then won CA D4 CC championship in 15:13 at woodward park beating Chad Hall by 37 seconds. Only AJ Acosta had a faster time that day (in the D1 race). He tore his meniscius over the winter of his soph season and was not able to resume training until October (had surgery in June after a number of misdiagnoses).
He built from no training to what most people would consider moderate mileage (40-50 mpw) this january, ran a 4:05 for 1500 coasting then went out the next day and ran 1:09 for a half marathon that was supposed to be a tempo run. About a month later he developed some sort of soft tissue injury in his lower leg and missed most of this track season. He returend to racing about 3 weeks ago and just last friday ran a 9:13 (4:45, 2:20, 2:08 for splits at 1600, 2400, finish) to win our section championship. His running has been very limited this season, but he still puts up great times.
His coach is now only going to take him to about 35-40 mpw over the summer to get a base on him. That will be more base than the kid has ever had. Hopefully, the results will follow.
Why does every kid have to run extreme mileage? If you look at the mileage build up that I posted, the Paly kid could be running 70mpw as a senior. That gives him plenty of room to progress in college.
Perhaps the members of this board would rather see him injured or burned out.
German has some crazy talent.
Looks like that makes sense; I would say maintain what hes strong at and keep develping gradually, and work on his weaknesses...wether is form-i.e. mechanics-speed, core-but keep him strong physically which keeps you away from injuries. I guess thats the most important thing, let him have fun and stay injury free-the rest will come.
CoachB wrote:
No, actually I wasn't kidding.
I was thinking that after cross, he could take a break, then go up to 30 to prep for sophomore track season
Then to 36-40 to prep for Junior year in XC
Then 45-50 building up for Junior year in track.
Then 50-60 building up for cross as a senior.
Then 55-70 building up for track as a senior.