Payton Jordan Invite Discussion Thread

xxxxx wrote:

[quote]Jdawg wrote:

Carney, looks like he's made huge progress under Hudson; pretty cool to see some new names upfront-the next wave of great american runners is here and progressing.

Anyone know what happened to Fam.

[quote]TD in OR wrote:

Carney JUST started under Hudson. Please, Hudson...you can't take credit for him quite yet.

you think hudson would be so shallow as to post on a message board about one of his athletes so he can brag and take credit in front of a bunch of no name hacks like yourself????

No updates from the 2nd heat?

amazing to think that Dan Browne can run a solid 28:10...about what he has for years now. But it only placed 22nd in a race on US soil. And he got beat by MANY Americans. This is a guy that made BOTH 10k and marathon oly teams in 2004.

USA Distance running is on a HUGE upswing. Think how many sub 13:35- 5k's and sub 28:10's have been run in April alone this year.

what do so many people have against hudson??? people on here complain and rag on him more than they do on osama bin laden - i'm not kidding, it's disgusting. i swear it must be jealousy. why are you so quick to try to take something away from hudson, especially if he hasn't even claimed anything??? it's like you're anticipating a good thing happening for him so you can discredit it with same lame excuse as soon as it happens. you people make me sick. get a life. way to go BPTG.

Portland looks pretty good...

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Payton Jordan Cardinal Invitational - 4/29/2007

Stanford University --Stanford, California

Event 22 Men 10000 Meter Run Section 2

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Name Year School Finals

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1 John Moore U of Portland 28:35.95

2 Sergio Reyes Asics Aggies 28:39.23

3 Eric Gillis Speed River Tfc 28:42.23

4 Brett Gotcher Stanford 28:51.65

5 Michael Kilburg U of Portland 28:57.62

6 Antonio Vega Minnesota 29:04.13

7 Obed Mutanya Arizona 29:04.42

8 Christian Wagner Wisconsin 29:06.13

9 Mike Sayenko Washington 29:07.22

10 Forest Braden Boise State 29:13.69

11 Matt Sheeks U of Portland 29:14.26

12 David Ruschena Unattached 29:21.10

13 Marten Bostrom Northern Arizona 29:24.55

14 Paul Hefferon Kansas 29:45.33

-- Ryan Vail OK State DNF

-- Patrick Parsel UC Davis DNF

-- Trever Ball New Balance DNF

-- Kevin Castille Team Eugene DNF

-- David Jankowski OK State DNF

Event 22 Men 10000 Meter Run Section 2

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Name Year School Finals

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1 John Moore U of Portland 28:35.95

2 Sergio Reyes Asics Aggies 28:39.23

3 Eric Gillis Speed River Tfc 28:42.23

4 Brett Gotcher Stanford 28:51.65

5 Michael Kilburg U of Portland 28:57.62

6 Antonio Vega Minnesota 29:04.13

7 Obed Mutanya Arizona 29:04.42

8 Christian Wagner Wisconsin 29:06.13

9 Mike Sayenko Washington 29:07.22

10 Forest Braden Boise State 29:13.69

11 Matt Sheeks U of Portland 29:14.26

12 David Ruschena Unattached 29:21.10

13 Marten Bostrom Northern Arizona 29:24.55

14 Paul Hefferon Kansas 29:45.33

-- Ryan Vail OK State DNF

-- Patrick Parsel UC Davis DNF

-- Trever Ball New Balance DNF

-- Kevin Castille Team Eugene DNF

-- David Jankowski OK State DNF

That is a damn good showing the U of Portland. They should have 3 in the 10k at nationals with Kinsella.

I do agree that Rupp needs to be drug tested, but at the same time I'm not sure that that will accomplish much since it is so easy for an elite athlete with an elite coach to beat a drug test. I think that it would be legitimate to post a poll on the front page asking whether or not people think that Rupp is clean. I would be interested to see the results and see if action will be taken.

So....I guess any progress the guy made since joining the Hudson team should not be counted? Pretty weird theory...Hey, if his methods work better with some athletes then others, thats how it goes. That is why there are certain coaches for certain athletes...He's a good coach give him credit as well as the athlete who produces the result.

xxxxx wrote:

[quote]Jdawg wrote:

Carney, looks like he's made huge progress under Hudson; pretty cool to see some new names upfront-the next wave of great american runners is here and progressing.

Anyone know what happened to Fam.

[quote]TD in OR wrote:

Carney JUST started under Hudson. Please, Hudson...you can't take credit for him quite yet.

drug testing=good wrote:

I do agree that Rupp needs to be drug tested, but at the same time I'm not sure that that will accomplish much since it is so easy for an elite athlete with an elite coach to beat a drug test. I think that it would be legitimate to post a poll on the front page asking whether or not people think that Rupp is clean. I would be interested to see the results and see if action will be taken.

Y'all are ridiculous.

How many of these other Americans are you also considering testing?

5 Jorge Torres Reebok 27:42.91%

6 Ed Moran Nike 27:43.13%

7 James Carney Unattached 27:43.64%

12 Alan Culpepper Nike 27:50.05%

14 Josh Rohatinsky Unattached 27:55.86%

16 Seth Summerside Unattached 28:02.51%

17 Ryan Shay Saucony 28:03.44%

19 Tim Nelson Wisconsin

Or do they all get a pass since they didn't win the race?

If Galen had run 27:55, does he still need to be tested? My guess is it that makes no difference... For whatever reason y'all have it in for Galen/Alberto and feel the need to put a damper on an absolutely incredible performance....

Why don't we celebrate his effort and support him in his quest to be GREAT; to eventually be an international competitor? The kid is not yet 21 (May 8th, according to USATF bio); maybe he can develop into a competitive athlete on the world scene - and we can all stand back and say that, in some small way, we helped him, simply by supporting and believing in him.

Heck, the kid ran 13:37 three years ago; is it too much of a stretch to believe that he can run 27:33 now?

Dave Frank

If ANY of the people suggesting drugs knew how Galen trained you would be A LOT less surprised by him running 27:33. He has been training at that level for a couple of years now and FINALLY has a PR to match his training.

If he ran 26:30 tonight then I might be suggesting drugs as well but: A) he didn't B) MANY runners have run faster than Galen and done it without drugs.

The dude ran 4:01, 7:49 and 13:37 in high school off some seriosuly hard training. Why is 27:33 three years later such a shock to the haters? The 'Al Sal' and drugs argument is sooo tired.

PS - That was also a VERY good Oregon school record that Galen took down tonight (McChesney 27:40). Will he take down McChesney's 5K school record of 13:14 before it's all said and done??? Good chance I'd say...

you are rediculous. use logic.

please stop acting like a retard. do you seriously think galen rupp doped? he ran 13:37 for 5000m in h.s. he ran 28:15 as a freshman. he finished in the top 10 at ncaa's. he ran faster than ritz did for 5000m when he was in high school, and ritz ran 27:38 for 10,000m. doesn't it just make sense?? and you have to open your mouth and say something retarded like "please test him". if you want it so badly, why don't you contact the governing body who does testing, because by saying that on here, you're just preaching to the chior.

you think hudson would be so shallow as to post on a message board about one of his athletes so he can brag and take credit in front of a bunch of no name hacks like yourself????[/quote]

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In a word: yes.

ramxc wrote:

sorry, copied it straight from Track & Field News site... now that Sideshow Bob doesn't work there, I guess it doesn't get updated very often.

Move over, Rover, and let Jimi take over...

xxxxx wrote:

Carney JUST started under Hudson. Please, Hudson...you can't take credit for him quite yet.

All of his improvement came under Hudson. Give credit where credit is due.

do you know brad hudson personally?

HEY IF YOU ARE SO SURE AL SAL AND RUPP ARE DOPING THEN BE A BIG STAR AND PROVE IT FOR US. IF YOU KNOW SOMETHING AND DON'T DO ANYTHING TO STOP IT YOU ARE A CO-CONSPIRATOR TO ILLEGAL ACTIVITY. SO YOU MUST BE A DOPER OR PUSHER TOO.

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mcdougals time is still auto for nats. LOLZ.