Who will WIN in Healthy Kidney 10k: Mottram Vs. Ritz Vs. ?

I can assure you that Craig Mottram will be taking Ritz seriously. If he didn't he would be a fool. Anyone racing would be taking careful note of competition capable of running 27.4X. I for one think Ritz, if fit, is a serious contender to take down Mottram who we have seen beaten on numerous occasions.

Mottram is on an entirely different level than Ritz. He may take notice of him, but he sure as hell isnt worried.

Not really, the healthy 10k record is 28.10. I think ritz has a shot at that and if ritz could get the record then he could definately beat mottram. Mottram has tried and failed three times to get that record. Didn't Fam get closed to beating Mottram last year?

Unrated wrote:

Mottram is on an entirely different level than Ritz. He may take notice of him, but he sure as hell isnt worried.

In the 5k, yes. In the 10k -- that's not a sure thing. Ritz's PR is what, 15 seconds faster?

I think Mottram isn't afraid at all to butt heads with Ritzenhein, and he's actually probably looking to take it to Ritzenhein at his own distance, and I wouldn't be surprised if Mottram outkicks him the last 1k if they are hanging together at a managable pace, should Ritzenhein allow it to go that way. I think this is really just more of a way to race outdoors but without getting on the track so as not to pay too much attention to time.

However, I think once Ritzenhein gets 100% healthy again and has established himself in Eugene(at sea level) for a good long while(6 months - year), we may begin to see a different Dathan Ritzenhein, as in, the Ritzenhein from 2001. I was just thinking last night about how his 3rd place at the World XC Jr race was in 2001- before he ever started training at altitude. I think he may excel once he has established a good training base at sea level, and if that is the case, I look forward to seeing what he does in the future. Posters on other threads about Ritzenhein moving around suggested the possibility of Mahon's group, but that would be back at altitude. Ritzenhein could probably benefit from altitude just as much as other runners who only spend 3-4 weeks at altitude 2 to 3 times a year, like Goucher or Famiglietti. Here's to Ritzenhein and a good come back race against Mottram.

Not Fam, not anybody...NO ONE got close to beating Mottram last year. He crushed the field from the third mile on after waht i heard was a somwewhat poky (for those guys) first 2 miles.

https://www.nyrr.org/races/pro/kidney/06story.asp

dathan ritzenhein is only good on the AMERICAN scene, not the WORLD scene!!

craig mottram is great on the WORLD scene, and is an international competitor.

Mottram beat bekele. ritz lost to webb, who doesnt even special in the 10k like ritz does.

this race is going to be a blowout. i say mottram by atleast a minute. btw, ritz is the most overrated runner of all time. much more than pre.

Dathan Ritzenhein is better than Paul Tergat at every distance from the 40 yard dash to the marathon.

twice a runner wrote:

Unrated wrote:

Mottram is on an entirely different level than Ritz. He may take notice of him, but he sure as hell isnt worried.

In the 5k, yes. In the 10k -- that\'s not a sure thing. Ritz\'s PR is what, 15 seconds faster?

Ritz is going to have his hands full against Mottram, heck he will have his hands full against Fam. Nobody really knows what kind of shape Ritz is in at the moment and how much of a setback his \"stress reaction\" was, but if history repeats itself one would have to predict that Ritz will be pretty fit to be running this thing. I look back to the Mobile 10K where he completely dominated (against a weaker field) and set the course record. I believe he was coming off an injury at that race and just started to do speed work.

Having said that, Fam wasn\'t anywhere close to Mottram last year at this race and he finished within 2 seconds of Ritz the month before at Stanford.

If Ritz is going to have any shot at winning this race he is going to have to be fitter than ever, because all signs point to Mottram being in shape. That is a big question mark right now.

Mottram in a bitchslap.

Yea, Mottram in a bitchslap, I totally agree. And more than that, Fam will beat Ritz as well. Fam will take Ritzs reserved spot at the top of the American 10k. I say reserved because he has never actually claimed that seat, everyone just keeps saying he will.

Paul Radcliffe vs Ritz in the Marathon? PRs 214 vs 215. Too close to call. Ritz gets a stress fracture and Paula stops to cry after taking a shit on the road.

I will tell you who did not win a kidney, this guy:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18330867/

Dad agets released from prison to donate a kidney to his dying son and instead takes off for Mexico with his new girlfriend.

At least someone is going back to Mexico.

pr's proove otherwise, my friend.

ritz is overrated. there is no way he will beat mottram. fam just ran 13 11, he's on his way up too. i dont think ritz has a chance. BTW i thought he was injured?

There will be other elite athletes announced for this race, you realize. Mo Farah was in it last year. Other names will be announced soon. It's not just a Mottram vs. Ritzenhein show.

Uh, Mottram going away.

Dathan has time trialed 2 very good 10k times, but he hasn't done much real racing on the track, he has only one dull tool in his war chest, he can run a fastish time but not enough to take the kick out of anyone of similar fitness, and he has no kick himself. This means that Ritz is a "one trick pony" and all Mottram has to do is to ride that pony till he is ready to win, then it is all over.

"Thanks for doin' the work mate, it's time for me to win this thing"

Wetmore told Dathan that his 1500m/3000m speed needed development, but Dathan knew better.

Watch the clip below - Dathan simply doesn't have these kinds of tools. Sorry, them's just the facts. All joking aside, Dathan would be well served to train with Webb for a year. Webb already has a better 10K than Ritz, so maybe he could learn something.

I dont think 430 will EVER understand that a faster PR does NOT always mean that someone is better at actual racing.