My stats:
55 years old.
Bib 634
Chip time: 3:20:14
Gun time: 3:20:19
10k time: 46:00
Half M: 1:34:40
20 mile: 2:23:47
Pace 7:28
126th place overall.
My stats:
55 years old.
Bib 634
Chip time: 3:20:14
Gun time: 3:20:19
10k time: 46:00
Half M: 1:34:40
20 mile: 2:23:47
Pace 7:28
126th place overall.
Kind of hurt those last few miles huh.
1st 10K: 7:24 pace
next 6.9 miles: 7:03 pace
next 6.9 miles: 7:12 pace
last 10,008 m: 9:05 pace
Whatever man wrote:
Kind of hurt those last few miles huh.
I imagine it did.
I don't think there is anything to unusual about these times, the pace is consistent until the last 10k.
At first I thought it was odd that he was able to get over the start so fast, but when I went to marathonguide.com and saw the times for people around him it appears many people who finished with times around 3:20 crossed the start within a few seconds of the gun. When he has chip times and gun times listed in other marathons it seems common for those times to be very close, so he must start very near the starting line in most of his races.
A guy named Tim Walsh finished right behind Jurena and had very similar splits. They were within a couple minutes of each other at every split. I also looked at the times of Michael POPICK who finished directly in front of him. Popick's times/splits are very similar as well.
I do not see anything here that would indicate he cheated. I think we can conclude he is capable of running a 3:20 marathon at 55 years of age, which is impressive.
the last 2-3 miles were brutal. I only did the half but it was a tough looong hill to get to the finish line.
This was my first Marathon, quite the experience!
Yeah, I was 1:18:55 through the half and 2:02 through 20 miles, right on 2:40 pace, but my last 3 miles were a struggling 7:10-7:15 pace for a 2:44ish finish. Hilly, and the sun was making downtown Atlanta quite warm.
Overall, it was a good Marathon, though having the marathoners and half-marathoners merge together in the later stages became a mess. Thousands of walkers to dodge!
no way that's the real Jurena...he couldn't even make it to the 10k in that time.
HAL 9000 wrote:
This was my first Marathon, quite the experience!
Yeah, I was 1:18:55 through the half and 2:02 through 20 miles, right on 2:40 pace, but my last 3 miles were a struggling 7:10-7:15 pace for a 2:44ish finish. Hilly, and the sun was making downtown Atlanta quite warm.
Overall, it was a good Marathon, though having the marathoners and half-marathoners merge together in the later stages became a mess. Thousands of walkers to dodge!
you da man! sucks about the gallowalkers!
Those times seem legitimate to me also.
I didn't run it, but a good friend of mine did. He
was at approximately 1:37 at the half and finished at 3:37.
The temperature was a record setter, in Atlanta, and the
longer people were on the course the worse it got.
Congratulations. You bagged this guy in Chicago (and a few other races), and he paid the price for his fraud.
That said, these times are probably legit.
Overall pace is wrong, try 7:40.7:28 = 3:15
William Jurena wrote:
My stats:
55 years old.
Bib 634
Chip time: 3:20:14
Gun time: 3:20:19
10k time: 46:00
Half M: 1:34:40
20 mile: 2:23:47
Pace 7:28
126th place overall.
http://ing.activeresult.com/georgia/?event=&bib_list=&posted_p=t&refresh=300&last_name=jurena&first_names=william&bib=&x=0&y=0
Based on past history, I took a look at the map for mr. jurena's race and noted the following:
- mile marker 6.2 and 13.1 are basically right next to each other
- a short (looks like maybe 3 miles) jog back towards the finish would get him back to the 20 mile mat
- an even shorter (maybe 2 miles?) jog towards Underground gets him right near the finish.
My thought - he realized his previous cheating was obvious based on times, so what did he do? Run the first 10k all out to register the 46:00, then casually make his way back to the finish, timing his "mat crossings" to give him fairly consistent times. Take a look at the map from the website...definitely not hard to do.
Of course he cheated. This course is a cheaters dream, plenty of places to cut the course and timing mats only at 10k, half, and 20 mile. I would like to see his splits if the mats were at every 5k. I don't even think he ran the first 10k. Probably just the last 10k to bask in his glory.
William Jurena is faster than me!
William Jurena, Pittsburgh Marathon 2003: 2:59:35
Lance Armstrong, New York City Marathon 2006: 2:59:36