UCLA #1 Basketball in history. The Greatest Basketball scool in the NCAA. #1 again this year according to the polls. That\'s saying alot too given UCLA is in the Pac-10, the toughest, most competitive, smartest academically, of all conferences the NCAA. Go Bruins !
smartest academically? "The Greatest Basketball >scool< in the NCAA. #1"
wouldnt the ivy league be the smartest academically?
Pitt will be number 1 soon. Dont worry, big white man aaron gray will take down wisconsin and oaklahoma st.
ben howland would be a helluva xc coach
karl krauser wrote:
Pitt will be number 1 soon. Dont worry, big white man aaron gray will take down wisconsin and oaklahoma st.
Being #1 in December doesn't really mean a whole lot. Also, Wisconsin will take down Pitt this weekend. I think the Big 10 may surprise a few people come tournament time (basically the inverse of last year).
That\'s the opinion in the east. It\'s like asking the BCS or AP for objectivity, impossible since the polled are mostly from the east. There are many surveys about which school is academically this or that. Indian Institute of Technology claims the highest reputation for engineering. Tokyo University grads control most of the world\'s wealth. But it depends on who you ask. Ever wonder why every city you visit claims it has the best police department in the U.S., the best fire department in the U.S., and the most reputable hospital in the U.S. ? It\'s like arguing religion or politics at the Christmas dinner table.
Happy Kwanzaa.
Or that when the top people in a variety of fields are asked what the most respected universities are in the nation, the ivies are consistently at the top, moreson than other conferences.
I will be generous to the PAC-10 here and do a quick rundown:
1) Yale = Stanford, no winner here.
2) Harvard = Cal (Harvard much better undergrad, I'll be generous to pac10ers and call it even for grad school)
3) Princeton > UCLA
4) Penn > USC
5) Brown, Cornell, Columbia, Dartmouth, are all better schools than Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, Arizona, and Arizona State.
PAC-10 is overall better than Big 10, SEC, Big 12, but its about even to the ACC and not close to Ivy.
1) Duke = Stanford
2) Cal > UVA
3) UNC= UCLA
4) USC = Wake
5) BC > UW
6) GTECH > Zona
7) And the rest is handed to the ACC, because after the PAC10s first 4, it goes downhill fast.
Arizona will win the Pac-10 in men's hoops.
As an undergraduate you have been trained to come up with definitive answers. However, in this case, you are seeking an answer which cannot be found here on letsrun nor anywhere else I\'m afraid. Surveys are subjective, and vary depending on where and when and how the questions were formuated. What\'s #1 in L.A. may not be #1 in New York and vicea-versa. Be satisfied with what you have. Don\'t go nuts over surveys and polls. Just enjoy your time in college.
I'm not in college, but some universities are better than others. There is no definitive way of quantifying this, but based on overall prestige (there are polls other than the USNEWS one, ones that ask top people in the field about which unis provide the best research, education, and opportunities) and statistics, Ivies are better than PAC10. I did not go to an Ivy undergrad either, so I'm not defending my school here.
If you believe that business/law firms/schools out west value PAC10 degrees more than Ivies I would tell you that you are flat out wrong, that is unless we are talking pure connections, but I am only discussing the educational value of these schools.
Nobody in their right mind believes that the PAC10 is anywhere near as good an academic conference as the Ivy league.
haha yeah and they will prolly smoke us, but it would be cool if we win[quote]brawn wrote:
brawn wrote:
Or that when the top people in a variety of fields are asked what the most respected universities are in the nation, the ivies are consistently at the top, moreson than other conferences.
I will be generous to the PAC-10 here and do a quick rundown:
1) Yale = Stanford, no winner here.
2) Harvard = Cal (Harvard much better undergrad, I'll be generous to pac10ers and call it even for grad school)
3) Princeton > UCLA
4) Penn > USC
5) Brown, Cornell, Columbia, Dartmouth, are all better schools than Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, Arizona, and Arizona State.
PAC-10 is overall better than Big 10, SEC, Big 12, but its about even to the ACC and not close to Ivy.
1) Duke = Stanford
2) Cal > UVA
3) UNC= UCLA
4) USC = Wake
5) BC > UW
6) GTECH > Zona
7) And the rest is handed to the ACC, because after the PAC10s first 4, it goes downhill fast.
Are you seriously saying Cal is as good as Harvard? WOW (And thats not World of Warcraft WOW). Harvard is ranked the #1 university in the nation, perhaps even the world
Jay Bilas wrote:
I think the Big 10 may surprise a few people come tournament time (basically the inverse of last year).
Last year? Try several previous years. The Big Ten Eleven sucks in basketball when it's money time.
No, I wasn't that serious. I was dismantling the other guy's argument who said PAC10 was as strong as Ivy. Even calling Harvard = to Cal, Ivy is still a ton stronger. Like I stated in my post, I was being very generous to the PAC10 there.
No Place For Miracles wrote:
Jay Bilas wrote:I think the Big 10 may surprise a few people come tournament time (basically the inverse of last year).
Last year? Try several previous years. The Big Ten Eleven sucks in basketball when it's money time.
Maybe you forgot that two years ago the Big Ten had two teams in the Final 4 (MSU and Illinois), and nearly had 3 teams, Wisco lost a tight one to UNC in the Elite 8. Yes, last year sucked, but over the last decade the Big 10 had fared pretty well come tourney time.
UNC owns UCLA in basketball and in academics.
What school is UNC and where is it located ?
UF would own all of your schools in football and b-ball!!!!!!
RPI: Zona #1, UCLA #2. Going to be at least two great battles this year...Go Cats! Pac is playing great so far. Easily the third best league in the country, outside of the ACC and Missouri Valley.