Get down haters!
NikkiMFHiltz
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To cut down on the # of posts we need to moderate, we are requiring registration to post in this thread (registration is free) moving forward. To help clarify a few things that constantly are debated/discussed, the following things are true.
1) When introduced at meets, Nikki gets very loud cheers.
2) Nikki has had a double mastectomy. Nikki is not on testosterone treatment. That isn’t allowed by World Athletics and would be a doping violation. Nikki is a biological female who prefers they / them pronouns.
That should settle about 98% of the questions that pop up over and over.
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She crushed it!
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What are talking about? One of the greatest female distance runners and humans we've seen, and you got this?
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She needs to be disqualified from running in the women’s category. Self mutilation should be added to the prohibited list for professional runners.
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It is funny because she killed her own marketability with her trans/non-binary rhetoric. Majority of the women's running market doesn’t liken themselves to Nikki or feel any similarity/connection to her.
The girls youth community doesn’t feel a connection or ‘want to be the next Nikki.’ She doesn’t represent or connect to that group well either. Parents aren’t going get excited about an athlete that supports a cause that puts girls sports opportunities at risk due to inclusion of men competing in them.
She only resonates with the delusional and fat liberal inclusive multi-color hair crowd. The majority of that group does not run, and has very little purchasing power and little discretional funds.
She has a very small niche market. The majority don’t see her in a race field and want to cheer her on. They are immediately drawn to supporting others.
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TMADDDHASFNE wrote:
She needs to be disqualified from running in the women’s category. Self mutilation should be added to the prohibited list for professional runners.
WTF are you talking about. Nikki was born a biological female.
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Lumbersnacks wrote:
TMADDDHASFNE wrote:
She needs to be disqualified from running in the women’s category. Self mutilation should be added to the prohibited list for professional runners.
WTF are you talking about. Nikki was born a biological female.
THIS! The rest doesn't matter. Get tf over it haters. Ok?
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Silly decisions wrote:
It is funny because she killed her own marketability with her trans/non-binary rhetoric. Majority of the women's running market doesn’t liken themselves to Nikki or feel any similarity/connection to her.
The girls youth community doesn’t feel a connection or ‘want to be the next Nikki.’ She doesn’t represent or connect to that group well either. Parents aren’t going get excited about an athlete that supports a cause that puts girls sports opportunities at risk due to inclusion of men competing in them.
She only resonates with the delusional and fat liberal inclusive multi-color hair crowd. The majority of that group does not run, and has very little purchasing power and little discretional funds.
She has a very small niche market. The majority don’t see her in a race field and want to cheer her on. They are immediately drawn to supporting others.
Copium
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Silly decisions wrote:
It is funny because she killed her own marketability with her trans/non-binary rhetoric. Majority of the women's running market doesn’t liken themselves to Nikki or feel any similarity/connection to her.
The girls youth community doesn’t feel a connection or ‘want to be the next Nikki.’ She doesn’t represent or connect to that group well either. Parents aren’t going get excited about an athlete that supports a cause that puts girls sports opportunities at risk due to inclusion of men competing in them.
She only resonates with the delusional and fat liberal inclusive multi-color hair crowd. The majority of that group does not run, and has very little purchasing power and little discretional funds.
She has a very small niche market. The majority don’t see her in a race field and want to cheer her on. They are immediately drawn to supporting others.
Let's put that theory to the test by comparing Nikki's Instagram follower count to other top female American middle distance runners:
- Nikki Hiltz: 148K
- Elle Purrier St. Pierre: 119K
- Shelby Houlihan: 53.9K
- Dani Jones: 32.2K
- Sinclaire Johnson: 30.8K
- Heather MacLean: 27.4K
- Sage Hurta-Klecker: 17.6K
- Emily Mackay: 14.2K
Looks like Nikki is doing well.
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Nikki is an insanely popular runner to young (and even old) women. As well as queer, trans and nonbinary runners.
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I’m pretty sure 80%+ of these pro-Nikki posts are Nikki herself identifying as a different person and gender. Seek mental help.
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OMG. Aren't you all tired?
Have I had issues with Nikki's opinions around trans women in women's sports? Yes.
Is Nikki an excellent runner and exciting to watch? Also yes. You can root for someone and not agree with everything they have to say. You can show someone basic respect even if you don't always understand their personal choices.
I'm so sick of the constant hate. It's so tiring. I'm just sick of the smallest things riling people up to say the worst things ever rather than just enjoying a race.
Why does an athlete have to fit your exact image in order to be excited about them? It's never enough.
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TMADDDHASFNE wrote:
She needs to be disqualified from running in the women’s category. Self mutilation should be added to the prohibited list for professional runners.
Suzy Favor Hamilton had breast reduction surgery. Shall we strike all her records?
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Silly decisions wrote:
It is funny because she killed her own marketability with her trans/non-binary rhetoric. Majority of the women's running market doesn’t liken themselves to Nikki or feel any similarity/connection to her.
The girls youth community doesn’t feel a connection or ‘want to be the next Nikki.’ She doesn’t represent or connect to that group well either. Parents aren’t going get excited about an athlete that supports a cause that puts girls sports opportunities at risk due to inclusion of men competing in them.
She only resonates with the delusional and fat liberal inclusive multi-color hair crowd. The majority of that group does not run, and has very little purchasing power and little discretional funds.
She has a very small niche market. The majority don’t see her in a race field and want to cheer her on. They are immediately drawn to supporting others.
You know who has an even smaller niche market? You.
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Silly decisions wrote:
It is funny because she killed her own marketability with her trans/non-binary rhetoric. Majority of the women's running market doesn’t liken themselves to Nikki or feel any similarity/connection to her.
The girls youth community doesn’t feel a connection or ‘want to be the next Nikki.’ She doesn’t represent or connect to that group well either. Parents aren’t going get excited about an athlete that supports a cause that puts girls sports opportunities at risk due to inclusion of men competing in them.
She only resonates with the delusional and fat liberal inclusive multi-color hair crowd. The majority of that group does not run, and has very little purchasing power and little discretional funds.
She has a very small niche market. The majority don’t see her in a race field and want to cheer her on. They are immediately drawn to supporting others.
I think you're right. Her only real marketability is as an American medal threat. You probably want the other 2 Americans to medal more than her, but I think Americans can root for her to put one more on the medal table. She probably knows this and trains like hell.
But does it really matter - if Lululemon is willing to give her a contract and pay her, what the rest of us think is peanuts. Lulu cares about seeing their logo breaking the tape - not how much clothing Hiltz' image can sell. They have other athletes to bring to events and show wearing the clothing they want you to buy.
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