The main reason Kenyan doping busts have gone through the roof the past 5-10 years is because they have ramped up out-of-comp testing there. Prevalence of doping in Kenya was most definitely higher in the 00s and early 10s when busts were less common. Ethiopia is far behind Kenya on out-of-comp testing. So, it would be hard to say that the athletes are cleaner than the surrounding countries. For instance, if you read the article, it sounds like Tesfay tested positive after in test in Copehhagen, not in Ethiopia. Moreover, many athletes have gone to Ethiopia to train when testing in Kenya started to ramp up (Mo Farah, Zane Robertson etc).
The main reason Kenyan doping busts have gone through the roof the past 5-10 years is because they have ramped up out-of-comp testing there. Prevalence of doping in Kenya was most definitely higher in the 00s and early 10s when busts were less common. Ethiopia is far behind Kenya on out-of-comp testing. So, it would be hard to say that the athletes are cleaner than the surrounding countries. For instance, if you read the article, it sounds like Tesfay tested positive after in test in Copehhagen, not in Ethiopia. Moreover, many athletes have gone to Ethiopia to train when testing in Kenya started to ramp up (Mo Farah, Zane Robertson etc).
Someone above said Tesfay is Eritrean -- not sure why anyone is talking about Ethiopia, or Kenya.
Regarding Kenyan doping in the 00s and early 10s, the Sunday Times published leaked blood data regarding blood doping suspicion, from 2001-2012, with Kenya and Ethiopia below the world average. If they were doping more than that, then it was not with EPO or blood transfusions.
I've also seen accounts that the Kenyan doping became a problem around 2010 timeframe. In any case, I've seen nothing that suggests intentional doping was a problem in Kenya any earlier. This could explain why drug busts increased around that time, and then again around 2016, as the AIU ramped up testing, WADA built a lab, and ADAK was created (to replace the existing RADO testing). WADA has looked into Kenyan doping, with reports published in 2014, and again 2017, noting significant reasons for Kenyan doping include negligence and ignorance of the athletes and their doctors of athlete obligations during routine medical treatments, and local exploitation by doctors/chemists, and remote exploitation by foreign agents.
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The main reason Kenyan doping busts have gone through the roof the past 5-10 years is because they have ramped up out-of-comp testing there. Prevalence of doping in Kenya was most definitely higher in the 00s and early 10s when busts were less common. Ethiopia is far behind Kenya on out-of-comp testing. So, it would be hard to say that the athletes are cleaner than the surrounding countries. For instance, if you read the article, it sounds like Tesfay tested positive after in test in Copehhagen, not in Ethiopia. Moreover, many athletes have gone to Ethiopia to train when testing in Kenya started to ramp up (Mo Farah, Zane Robertson etc).
According to AIU, Ethiopia has the highest average number(10.2) of OOC tests of runners who participated in Paris Olympic Games.
The main reason Kenyan doping busts have gone through the roof the past 5-10 years is because they have ramped up out-of-comp testing there. Prevalence of doping in Kenya was most definitely higher in the 00s and early 10s when busts were less common. Ethiopia is far behind Kenya on out-of-comp testing. So, it would be hard to say that the athletes are cleaner than the surrounding countries. For instance, if you read the article, it sounds like Tesfay tested positive after in test in Copehhagen, not in Ethiopia. Moreover, many athletes have gone to Ethiopia to train when testing in Kenya started to ramp up (Mo Farah, Zane Robertson etc).
Someone above said Tesfay is Eritrean -- not sure why anyone is talking about Ethiopia, or Kenya.
Regarding Kenyan doping in the 00s and early 10s, the Sunday Times published leaked blood data regarding blood doping suspicion, from 2001-2012, with Kenya and Ethiopia below the world average. If they were doping more than that, then it was not with EPO or blood transfusions.
I've also seen accounts that the Kenyan doping became a problem around 2010 timeframe. In any case, I've seen nothing that suggests intentional doping was a problem in Kenya any earlier. This could explain why drug busts increased around that time, and then again around 2016, as the AIU ramped up testing, WADA built a lab, and ADAK was created (to replace the existing RADO testing). WADA has looked into Kenyan doping, with reports published in 2014, and again 2017, noting significant reasons for Kenyan doping include negligence and ignorance of the athletes and their doctors of athlete obligations during routine medical treatments, and local exploitation by doctors/chemists, and remote exploitation by foreign agents.
Funny that doping actually "became a problem" in Kenya when they started to do some rudimentary testing in the country. Prior to 2010 the testing over there was probably close to non-existant.
The main reason Kenyan doping busts have gone through the roof the past 5-10 years is because they have ramped up out-of-comp testing there. Prevalence of doping in Kenya was most definitely higher in the 00s and early 10s when busts were less common. Ethiopia is far behind Kenya on out-of-comp testing. So, it would be hard to say that the athletes are cleaner than the surrounding countries. For instance, if you read the article, it sounds like Tesfay tested positive after in test in Copehhagen, not in Ethiopia. Moreover, many athletes have gone to Ethiopia to train when testing in Kenya started to ramp up (Mo Farah, Zane Robertson etc).
According to AIU, Ethiopia has the highest average number(10.2) of OOC tests of runners who participated in Paris Olympic Games.
All 31 athletes have at least 3 OOC tests
That's because as a high risk country, their athletes have to have had 33 OOC tests in the 12 months prior to participating at the Olympics. How many times were the 4th/5th/6th best in an event tested? I'm guessing close to no OOC tests.
Funny that doping actually "became a problem" in Kenya when they started to do some rudimentary testing in the country. Prior to 2010 the testing over there was probably close to non-existant.
People seem to say that a lot, but is it true, or is it just another myth that people fall for and propogate?
An East African RADO was formed back in 2005, which regularly tested Kenyan athletes, also out of competition. The IAAF has been testing Kenyan athletes since the days of John Ngugi.
The positive tests really ramped up around 2016 and 2017, when the AIU increased testing, and Kenya formed ADAK, and WADA approved a Kenyan lab.
I'm not seeing the time corelation to changes in testing around 2010.
The main reason Kenyan doping busts have gone through the roof the past 5-10 years is because they have ramped up out-of-comp testing there. Prevalence of doping in Kenya was most definitely higher in the 00s and early 10s when busts were less common. Ethiopia is far behind Kenya on out-of-comp testing. So, it would be hard to say that the athletes are cleaner than the surrounding countries. For instance, if you read the article, it sounds like Tesfay tested positive after in test in Copehhagen, not in Ethiopia. Moreover, many athletes have gone to Ethiopia to train when testing in Kenya started to ramp up (Mo Farah, Zane Robertson etc).
I don't think this is true at all but happy to be corrected? Recently ADAK stopped testing completely due to lack of funding. Most of the busts are in competition busts or wada testing, which is why we know Ethiopians are generally clean because if they were cheating they'd be getting caught in competition or by wada, the same way the kenyans are.
According to AIU, Ethiopia has the highest average number(10.2) of OOC tests of runners who participated in Paris Olympic Games.
All 31 athletes have at least 3 OOC tests
That's because as a high risk country, their athletes have to have had 33 OOC tests in the 12 months prior to participating at the Olympics. How many times were the 4th/5th/6th best in an event tested? I'm guessing close to no OOC tests.
They need 3 but they test 10 times,
For example USA has 4.7 average, and 32% of athletes from Olympic team have less than 3 ooc tests. For Gb is worse 3.6 tests per athlete, and 49% with less than 3 tests and 9% of the team with 0 ooc test
So I have a lot more credibility to Ethiopian runners, at those who pretend to Olympic team, then us or gb runners
Funny that doping actually "became a problem" in Kenya when they started to do some rudimentary testing in the country. Prior to 2010 the testing over there was probably close to non-existant.
People seem to say that a lot, but is it true, or is it just another myth that people fall for and propogate?
An East African RADO was formed back in 2005, which regularly tested Kenyan athletes, also out of competition. The IAAF has been testing Kenyan athletes since the days of John Ngugi.
The positive tests really ramped up around 2016 and 2017, when the AIU increased testing, and Kenya formed ADAK, and WADA approved a Kenyan lab.
I'm not seeing the time corelation to changes in testing around 2010.
Myth? I bet even you see the time correlation to changes in testing around 2016. notestsnoproblem was just too optimistic with their timing.
Until 2016/2017, as demonstrated by Coolsaet and Kiprop, Kenyans would get advance warning of their ooc tests in Kenya. So the dopers can start masking, overhydrating, skipping the last dose, or in the worst case miss the test. No AIU, no ADAK prior to 2016 ...
Then the AIU came over in 2017, and things started to change.
Funny that doping actually "became a problem" in Kenya when they started to do some rudimentary testing in the country. Prior to 2010 the testing over there was probably close to non-existant.
People seem to say that a lot, but is it true, or is it just another myth that people fall for and propogate?
An East African RADO was formed back in 2005, which regularly tested Kenyan athletes, also out of competition. The IAAF has been testing Kenyan athletes since the days of John Ngugi.
The positive tests really ramped up around 2016 and 2017, when the AIU increased testing, and Kenya formed ADAK, and WADA approved a Kenyan lab.
I'm not seeing the time corelation to changes in testing around 2010.
Is anyone else like me, and every time you see a "rekrunner" post, you automatically hit downvote, then skip the post without reading it?