They are hosting regionals and NON because of their facility, not their meets. The A&T home meets are run by the A&T track staff and the people at www.coacho.com do the timing. The regionals are run by the NCAA and NON are run by the people at NSSF or Nike (not exactly sure on this one). Those meets are using A&T's facility but use their own meet management, timing, officials, etc, etc. So, even though they are at the same facility, they are totally differently run events.
Shitty meets wrote:
They are hosting regionals and NON because of their facility, not their meets. The A&T home meets are run by the A&T track staff and the people at
http://www.coacho.comdo the timing. The regionals are run by the NCAA and NON are run by the people at NSSF or Nike (not exactly sure on this one). Those meets are using A&T's facility but use their own meet management, timing, officials, etc, etc. So, even though they are at the same facility, they are totally differently run events.
I can't comment on the running of A&T events but the NON is run by NSSF not Nike. Nike is the meet sponsor but the crew from NSSF puts on the meet. It is an excellent facility and in the hands of the right meet management, it makes for a great meet.
The St. Ignatious Middle School girls basketball team thinks you all are taking this too seriously.
Were taking this to seriuosly,haha.Good lord I wish I had some of my guys in the men's 5,000m so they could go from running 15:10-15:30 to a sub 13:50.I wonder what kind of hell I would catch,haha....
You are not necessarily familiar with me and if you were not at the meet you should not comment. This young lady is a good athlete.
The officials were talking as the crowd was cheering her on and they miscalculated the count. Other coaches were yelling as well. The coach is neither selfish or ignorant. It needed to be fair. She ran an extra lap and it needed to be challenged. The same thing almost happened on the 1500m race the next day. The officials were volunteers.
Hold on Mobius you say "The same thing almost happened in the 1500m race the next day" ,no it didn't.What are you talking about?Where you even there? or are you just making stuff up to support your argument/point?
Could someone maybe post her splits? All 12.5 laps please.
No, because she only ran 11.5 laps and ran them right at her usual 18:25 pace which works out to right around...................16:56. I've watched this girl run an when I saw her name time and the location of the meet my first recation was that she ran a lap short.
When she's not even close to this time at nationals her coach should pay back any travel & housing return the athlete gifts and this meet should be decertified as a qualifier.
Is there any recourse for this? Is it that easy to BS your way into the NCAA meet? This is ridiculous! The NCAA needs to be notified about this. One look at the 3K and 1500 times tell you this time is bogus. Don't they ask for other times run during the year? The NCAA needs to tighten up the rules if people like this can just lie their way in. 18:30 for the 5K has been run by many honest women this season who are not going to nationals as they did not lie about their time. There are standards for the NCAA meet for a reason.
It takes a very bitter and small person to single out one athlete and one event. Grow up, mistakes happen on every level of track and field. Either you should have volunteered your services or been able to keep a college coaching job. I have known the coach since the 1970's and know that she can coach. She was successful in high school, on the junior level and on the collegiate level. Let's see your resume! Explain how she developed one of the top distance runners in the nation on the division III level, if she can't coach. Check out the south region times in 2005. How can anything you state be taken as anything other than personal attacks on an athlete who is giving the best of her ability? What level are you certified as a track official? How many ncaa qualifiers have you had? On what level did you compete?
This is a non-issue. The ncaa will take all qualifiers that meet the standard, so noone is left out of the meet. i have had many ncaa qualifiers and seen this happen on the juco, div II and div III levels. If you read track and field news, you will find that these things happen everywhere. Do you have anything real to talk about? I will be more than happy to compare notes on the history of track and field. I have a library in my home and will provide detailed and documented proof of anything I write.
Oh, come on - read the thread! Her times for the last two years are posted. She never broke 18:26 for 5K or 10:31 for 3K. She never came close to running 16:56 pace for 3K let alone 5K. There is NO doubt that she only ran 11.5 laps. Her 3K time equates to about an 18:18 for 5K. If you divide that time by 12.5 and get her time for 11.5 laps, it comes out to be 16:50. This is almost exactly the time she ran. Considering she ran a lap less than she should have, a 16:56 seems about perfect ---- FOR 11.5 LAPS!
6K - 23:35
This converts to 11:04/19:17 for 3K/5K
marcanthony wrote:
The ncaa will take all qualifiers that meet the standard, so noone is left out of the meet. i have had many ncaa qualifiers and seen this happen on the juco, div II and div III levels. If you read track and field news, you will find that these things happen everywhere.
if the nc a&t girl wouldnt have gotten in, someone else would have. when have you ever seen someone get into a national meet because they ran a lap short? the athlete, year and event please. also, i cant recall reading an article in track and field news where someone won a race after running a lap short. can you point me to the correct magazine issue? i just feel bad for the girl who didnt get in because of an unethical and morally corrupt coach, athlete and university.
A few years ago, UTSA sent a girl to USATF Outdoors using a 1500 time of 4:39, yet they entered it as a mile time. I forget the girls name.
ok first off you say that they will take everyone who hits the time. Well guess what if you have run as many qualifier times as you claim to have then you would know that only generally the top 16-20 people get to go to nationals and that many times up to 40 people run the time. This year in the womens 5k there is a girl who is not going to nationals due to the fact that this occured. Also if you think I know nothing about qualifying for nationals this outdoor track meet with will be my 11th nationals.
Just look at the schools wrote:
Look what schools we are dealing with...NC A&T and Winston-Salem. Predominatly ______ people who can't count.
Have fun dealing with the shitty officials at A&T for all those going to regionals.
If that blank means what I think it means, what you said is soo wrong, and yet so hilarious. HAHAHAHAHA
Jeptolo ran 18:43.78 in the Division II 5000.
thats so sad the NCAA let that happen...did the coach of the 21st place girl even realize until it was too late???
Jeptolo smokes the 5000 wrote:
Jeptolo ran 18:43.78 in the Division II 5000.
ahhahahhaah. now there is no doubt that 16:56 was bogus.
Where did you find those results? I was looking for this earlier on NCAAsports.com but they don't have any reuslts updated yet.