TFN's women's AOY is Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone - Should it have been Beatrice Chebet?

IIRC, T&F news does not take cross country and some indoor events into account.

We debated this topic recently.

https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=13198445

American bias. I was listening to a citrus mag segment on the best coaches for 2024. Patrick Sang didn’t even get a mention (Faith 1 G 1 S + Ronald Kwemoi 1S)

No

Letsrun message board bias is that they would like nothing more than to see SML get run over by a train.

Nah

I think Sydney is a worthy winner

I think either Sydney or Beatrice deserves A.O.Y, meaning either pick would be worthy. Sydney defeated the Olympic Champion in her 200m main event, ran one of the fastest 400m of the year, broke 400 hurdles WR twice...so yes either was deserving of the honor.

Considering Sang’s obvious reliance on PEDs as the backbone of his programs, one has to figure that more attention similar to that garnered by Kersee the Chemist wouldn’t be good.

Isn’t Chebet the athlete whose name you kept getting wrong over and over on the LRC pod and then when Gault simply corrected you, you flipped out and started screaming at him?

^^^

In order to judge a publications choice, it is best to review their criteria first. You may disagree with their criteria but at least acknowledge it.

1. XC is not considered for AOY with T&FN's voting.

2. Sydney set two WRs

3. This logic is and has been stupid.

4. Sydney attempted to run the DL final but was denied(correctly).

Another example of what could have been a decent post ruined b/c the poster degenerated into ad hominem attacks.

Sad.

If only they would get some moderators and get rid of all the ad hominem attack posts, so there could be reasonable discussion here sometimes.

If you want to talk about bias, let's talk about the bias that Rojo clearly has against Sydney.

• Rojo routinely starts anti-Sydney threads.
• He wrote, "Unlike Sydney, Beatrice wasn't afraid to compete early and often" and mentioned Sydney not running an individual event until May, without acknowledging: 1) Sydney ran more track races this year than Beatrice, 2) Sydney ran a relay race in April, and 3) the Track & Field News article includes a quote from Sydney disclosing, "I still battled some of those knee injuries, early this season. We really had to take it one week at a time, one month at a time and make up the schedule as we went.” As a reminder, those knee injuries forced Sydney to withdraw from the world championships last year.
• He frames Sydney's decisions as being based on fear, using the word "afraid" twice in his first post.
• He continually criticizes Sydney for not going for two individual golds in Paris without acknowledging that the Olympic schedule wasn't conducive to a 400m-400 hurdles double the way it was for the distance doubles and the 100-200 double.
• He repeatedly singles out Sydney for not running the mixed 4x400 and blames her for the U.S. not winning gold in that event, even though there were other American stars who didn't run that relay either.
• He doesn't give Sydney any credit for running the fastest women's 4x400 relay leg in over 40 years.

Should be neither because they both take PEDs. Time to stop enabling disgracing a beautiful sport. Sid doesn't even need the juice to be great, but when you examine who's around her, getting into that stuff is inevitable.

Kenyan dopers shouldn’t get any recognition. She’ll get popped in a few years anyways so it’s better to not have to do damage control then.

That's what bigotry and prejudice do to people like the OP. Given that they are emotional induced and not driven by reason, they will they inevitably hinder clear thinking. You see from the OP many times.

Both great in their events but ultimately hurdles is a "softer" event. There's no denying it. Same reason why Duplantis can't be considered alongside other male competitors.

If we include everything off the track, it is Chebet. If we only include track, it is Sydney. Very close margins.