Smart people compare her to all previous runners. But we put the majority of the emphasis on the fastest ones like Kohl in the 10k and Tuohy in the 5k. Silly to look at what a runner at 20 minutes for 5k is doing for training. The biggest Tuohy fans don't understand that they are in fact comparing her performance to Tuohy and the other top females.
So you are saying they are comparing things to Tuohy without even noticing they are doing it?
Is this something that should be diagnosed and added to the DSM perhaps?
I am obsesssed with Parker and Tuohy. I am obsessed with most elite runners. Most rea fans of the sport are. I expect to see Parker make the team this year. She is the future of American distance running. I probably should say that she is the present but I really expect her to make some big jumps after going pro.
So then why do you and astro specifically single out Valby? It’s because she turned out to be better than Tuohy, that is why.
The only obsession with Tuohy here appears to be yours.
You are extremely obtuse, or pretend to act like everything here is through your rose-colored glasses. Everyone knows what’s going on with you and astro.
Many people have thought tuohy was suspect, and a few even came on the board to suggest it. But nobody droned on and on about her like you and astro have about Valby.
No. It happens in many threads. A thread is created about a particular runner but when another runner is mentioned, people say that the thread isn't about the second runner. We could have a thread about Webb but as soon as Ryun is mentioned. people will say that the thread isn't about him. Webb's accomplishments are directly related to Ryun's accomplishments. Current high schoolers are compared to Webb. If we didn't look at the sub 4 guys, how would we know if sub 4 is fast or slow?
No, he is not. You’re as obtuse as he is if you think so.
He can speak for himself, but from what ive seen the dude doesnt have faith in almost any performance from his many many posts on these threads.
It's not just one college girl that he isnt convinced of
But the point is, instead of choosing to drone on and on about Nico Young, or now Colin Sahlman, or Graham Blanks, or Ramsden, etc etc, he specifically drones on and on wrt Valby.
He can speak for himself, but from what ive seen the dude doesnt have faith in almost any performance from his many many posts on these threads.
It's not just one college girl that he isnt convinced of
But the point is, instead of choosing to drone on and on about Nico Young, or now Colin Sahlman, or Graham Blanks, or Ramsden, etc etc, he specifically drones on and on wrt Valby.
astro does it for the same reason; because SHE KICKED TUOHY’s ASS!
All of the points were addressed. Numerous people came on this thread and gave answers, and you and astro, specifically, ignored them and continued to accuse her of doping. You still think 5months of recovery for a foot injury is dramatic. Some injuries can last a career, yet some athletes, like Jake Wightman can be back running five weeks after a very severe foot injury. So to conclude a five month recovery for a foot injury is “dramatic” is just spouting nonsense; and it is stupidity when coming from you, one that doesn’t run and doesn’t understand basic training principles.
This thread on her training has produced 17 pages so far. You think that is all because of two posters?
But you still haven't addressed the point about her being "built to run" when runners like Ramzi, Kiprop and Jeptoo were also surely built to run.
This thread had produced 17 pages so far because ignorant idiots like you are not interested in her training at all.
Gee. Could it be because people needed to create a thread about Valby's supposed novel training approach to try to explain her dramatic improvement and all the other anomalies? I was on the fence until indoor nationals. Then we have a article where she trains sequestered from her own coach. Nothing to see here.
This thread isn't about Roe. But you say it isn't about Tuohy. What are you comparing VAlb'y accomplishments to that makes you question how good she is? You don't seem to realize that you are comparing her to Tuohy and other great runners tha came befire. If we had no frame of reference, Parker's accomplishments would be looked at in a vacuum. We wouldn't know if she is fast or slow. We wouldn't know if other utilize the same training methods or if she trains more than others. You are quick to refer to the training of elite runners, You are quick to act like Roe is an expert. But you scold people for mentioning the next best 5k runner in the NCAA and her training and her possible use of perfromance enhancers. Sure thing. Way to be consistent.
I have asked questions about her training and compared it to what I understand elites and pros do. Tuohy hasn't entered the discussion except via your obsession. I am not interested in going around in circles with you. You can believe whatever you like - just as I and others here do.
Gee. Could it be because people needed to create a thread about Valby's supposed novel training approach to try to explain her dramatic improvement and all the other anomalies? I was on the fence until indoor nationals.
Then we have a article where she trains sequestered from her own coach. Nothing to see here.
No, you weren't on the fence about Valby until indoor nationals. You have been insinuating that Valby was using drugs long before that.
You have admitted that you think they all use drugs. Not sure why you even bother to follow a sport if you're convinced every top runner except Tuohy uses drugs.
The only obsession with Tuohy here appears to be yours.
You are extremely obtuse, or pretend to act like everything here is through your rose-colored glasses. Everyone knows what’s going on with you and astro.
Many people have thought tuohy was suspect, and a few even came on the board to suggest it. But nobody droned on and on about her like you and astro have about Valby.
I think I should repeat what I have just said above.
No, he is not. You’re as obtuse as he is if you think so.
He can speak for himself, but from what ive seen the dude doesnt have faith in almost any performance from his many many posts on these threads.
It's not just one college girl that he isnt convinced of
You're in the right direction; my scepticism is fairly wide-ranging. But I realise I have pushed the button of an obsessive, who can't see past the runner who is the subject of this thread.
He can speak for himself, but from what ive seen the dude doesnt have faith in almost any performance from his many many posts on these threads.
It's not just one college girl that he isnt convinced of
But the point is, instead of choosing to drone on and on about Nico Young, or now Colin Sahlman, or Graham Blanks, or Ramsden, etc etc, he specifically drones on and on wrt Valby.