Genuinely trying to see what the concept behind this is, considering many 400m guys easily stretch to the 800 without “endurance” training but more specifically the benefit of long runs for “endurance” training. I tend to notice most long runs are used for recovery and end up just putting stress on the joints leading to injuries.
Genuinely trying to see what the concept behind this is, considering many 400m guys easily stretch to the 800 without “endurance” training but more specifically the benefit of long runs for “endurance” training. I tend to notice most long runs are used for recovery and end up just putting stress on the joints leading to injuries.
The point of a long run is the same for 800 runners as for milers and marathoners. The better your cardiovascular system is at delivering oxygen throughout your body the faster you can run. Obviously that's not all there is to it. It's very true that many good 800s have been run by people who don't do long runs and it's also true that a long run for an 800 runner doesn't need to be as long as for people racing longer distances. But if an 800 runner wants to cover all of his bases he'll do some version of a long run.
Long run is just a form of aerobic training just like tempo work or threshold work. 800m runners should definitely do some form of aerobic training as it will help for sure with the event but it doesn't need to be a long run.
If you choose to do them or not its all about how much benefit you get from them vs recovery time. Plenty of guys now doing double threshold have scrapped long runs as they believe that replacing it with more threshold work provides more benefit and less time to recover from.
I believe the greatest benefit of long runs is the injury resistance they provide. Extra stress on the joints doesn't lead to injury. Too much stress does but extra stress leads to adaptation and more injury resistant
How long we talking here? I mean if your running 40mpw as an 800 runner you maybe just doing 8miles on the weekend for a “long run”. I like them to be closer to MP especially towards the end. If we are talking 12 plus miles for someone running 40mpw i say thats to far.
Well, Peter Snell was the first known 800m man to do the 22-mile Wiaturarua run in Auckland under the guidance of the great Arthur Lydiard.
That was 66-plus years ago.
Lord Sebastian Coe would make visits into Kenya for long running, that was 40 years ago.
Kenyans, who have dominated this distance do high volumes of training and long running.
Most international 800m runners (not all) will run 60-80 mile week base period. Some more. As HRE wrote, "to better your cardiovascular system."
The 800m is 51/49% aerobic/anaerobic. You need the superior oxygen-transporting system to take advantage of whatever sprint you may have after 600m. At this point, the muscles are screaming for oxygen.
Genuinely trying to see what the concept behind this is, considering many 400m guys easily stretch to the 800 without “endurance” training but more specifically the benefit of long runs for “endurance” training. I tend to notice most long runs are used for recovery and end up just putting stress on the joints leading to injuries.
You're not looking at the big picture.....anybody that is serious about excelling in the 800 realizes it's not about one race. It's about having the tolerance to get through heats and semis in order to race at 100% effort for a final. Keep in perspective the "long run" for an 800 runner....it doesn't have to be 10+ miles (especially for high school runner). A lot of action happens in the last 80 meters....no strength, no kick.
Posters on this thread make me laugh! Posters of course bring up long dead Peter Snell. Posters bring up what they believe is the aerobic/anaerobic percentages, 800m race. None of you stated the obvious: Scare away sprinters from moving up to 800m.
Genuinely trying to see what the concept behind this is, considering many 400m guys easily stretch to the 800 without “endurance” training but more specifically the benefit of long runs for “endurance” training. I tend to notice most long runs are used for recovery and end up just putting stress on the joints leading to injuries.
Yep, I guess your JUST DUMB! Your words! You obviously haven't read/study/practiced any of the world record holders training. Your right you're JUST DUMB!!!!!!!!!!!!! Accept it and move on!
You missed the entire point, I came here so idiots like you could try to explain what the point of it is but alas LetsRun has proved itself to be meaningless again.
Genuinely trying to see what the concept behind this is, considering many 400m guys easily stretch to the 800 without “endurance” training but more specifically the benefit of long runs for “endurance” training. I tend to notice most long runs are used for recovery and end up just putting stress on the joints leading to injuries.
The energy system substrates for the 400m and 800m are very different, with a significantly higher proportion of the energy in an 800m being produced aerobically.
Long runs aren’t for recovery. They’re for developing greater aerobic capacity through stimulating the development of myoglobin, mitochondria and blood vessels.
This was a highschool category, not for some greasy 40 year old men to rub their sweaty fingers over their keyboards while sipping a Coors Lite, I wanted actual feedback.