The whole argument is insane. If gender is simply a human construct, why have a bottom change? A women could keep her penis or a man could keep her vagina. Because the whole trans argument is that body parts don't determine sex. So why change your body body parts? What's the point of sterilizing yourself to replace it with a non-functional plastic body part. It's insane.
Because they want to. People do gender-affirming procedures all the time. Women get breast implants, liposuction, buttock implants. Men get plastic surgery, penis lengthening procedures, go on testosterone cycles.
I’m not trans so I can’t argue with/don’t know about the infertility point of your post.
I’m confused- what do you think causes that mental state? Y’all acting like trans people can just ‘go to therapy’ and suddenly they’re not trans anymore.
As silly as those crazy evangelicals that formed those awful “conversion camps” for gay men in the ‘90s. Nobody got converted, but those suicide rates sure sky-rocketed.
They also disregard the trans person’s mental state. They want to attribute the suicide to external factors only.
I’m confused- what do you think causes that mental state? Y’all acting like trans people can just ‘go to therapy’ and suddenly they’re not trans anymore.
As silly as those crazy evangelicals that formed those awful “conversion camps” for gay men in the ‘90s. Nobody got converted, but those suicide rates sure sky-rocketed.
Except someone's sexuality isn't a mental illness, unlike the latest gender ideology
The whole argument is insane. If gender is simply a human construct, why have a bottom change? A women could keep her penis or a man could keep her vagina. Because the whole trans argument is that body parts don't determine sex. So why change your body body parts? What's the point of sterilizing yourself to replace it with a non-functional plastic body part. It's insane.
Because they want to. People do gender-affirming procedures all the time. Women get breast implants, liposuction, buttock implants. Men get plastic surgery, penis lengthening procedures, go on testosterone cycles.
I’m not trans so I can’t argue with/don’t know about the infertility point of your post.
Jesus. It's amazing to me that someone can type this and think it's an intelligent thought.
I’m confused- what do you think causes that mental state? Y’all acting like trans people can just ‘go to therapy’ and suddenly they’re not trans anymore.
As silly as those crazy evangelicals that formed those awful “conversion camps” for gay men in the ‘90s. Nobody got converted, but those suicide rates sure sky-rocketed.
Except someone's sexuality isn't a mental illness, unlike the latest gender ideology
I'm sure you're aware that homosexuality was widely viewed by 20th century society as a mental illness.
If you wish to comment on my post, try to comment on my post.
So they are too young to make a decision on gender transition, but not too young to decide whether to have abortion? Why should there be any difference?
Sorry, but if you wish to make the comparison, the burden is entirely upon you to demonstrate:
1) That these two things are essentially similar in all relevant ways
and
2) That there is a compelling reason to shift the discussion to looking at this other thing rather than directly addressing the point at hand.
But telling adults that they can't choose this path, no matter how much I think it is a bad idea . . . is a really bad idea. Adults can make their own decisions. And trying to take that right away from them by declaring them mentally ill doesn't cut it.
>>Adults can make their own decisions. And trying to take that right away from them by declaring them mentally ill doesn't cut it.<<
Do you believe this as a truth? So you hold the same truth for purchasing a handgun? Or is it not a truth, and just something you selectively say, but act like it is a truth?
Sorry, but you either do not understand what I posted (which was extremely easy to understand for anyone of average intelligence) or you are simply moronic in your questioning.
You'll have to do better if you wish to be taken seriously.
The sex change industry is estimated at $2.1 billion dollars and climbing. That's the motivation-money. Doctors and hospitals are now being sued by adults who were transitioned as children. When they start winning these suits and the financial penalty makes these mutilating surgeries on children financially risky, it will slow down, if not stop.
Every economic activity has dollars associated with it. Pointing out that there are $2.1 billion dollars in this activity is not very relevant. Unless, of course, you want to start arguing that people should not live in houses because this is a multi-trillion dollar industry.
The sex change industry is estimated at $2.1 billion dollars and climbing. That's the motivation-money. Doctors and hospitals are now being sued by adults who were transitioned as children. When they start winning these suits and the financial penalty makes these mutilating surgeries on children financially risky, it will slow down, if not stop.
I’m confused- what do you think causes that mental state? Y’all acting like trans people can just ‘go to therapy’ and suddenly they’re not trans anymore.
As silly as those crazy evangelicals that formed those awful “conversion camps” for gay men in the ‘90s. Nobody got converted, but those suicide rates sure sky-rocketed.
Except someone's sexuality isn't a mental illness, unlike the latest gender ideology
Homosexuality was considered a mental illness until sometime in the 90s. Only within the last decade or so has the idea that being gay is a natural variation of human sexuality gained mainstream acceptance in the U.S. because previously many people thought it was impossible for a man to have an innate attraction to men or vice versa and they were therefore deemed mentally ill.
Transgender people exist in virtually every culture, every race, and every ethnic group. They are born into conservative households, liberal households, and everything in between. They have also existed throughout history. The Transsexual Phenomenon was published in 1964 based on Dr. Harry Benjamin's research that there were no statistically significant differences in transgender people's upbringing, early childhood experiences, nor did they have any higher rate of a genuine mental health condition such as bipolar disorder, schizophrenia etc . Being born with an innate gender identity/expression that is opposite one's birth sex is just something that exists among the human species.
The sex change industry is estimated at $2.1 billion dollars and climbing. That's the motivation-money. Doctors and hospitals are now being sued by adults who were transitioned as children. When they start winning these suits and the financial penalty makes these mutilating surgeries on children financially risky, it will slow down, if not stop.
And the Pritzker family (one of whom, fat JB, is the far-left governor of Illinois) profits greatly from these.
Are you of the belief that there are no far-right individuals who "profit greatly" from that housing, agriculture or energy industries? Because, if not, then perhaps you might want to consider not eating, living in the dirt and avoiding all use of energy.
So they are too young to make a decision on gender transition, but not too young to decide whether to have abortion? Why should there be any difference?
Sorry, but if you wish to make the comparison, the burden is entirely upon you to demonstrate:
1) That these two things are essentially similar in all relevant ways
and
2) That there is a compelling reason to shift the discussion to looking at this other thing rather than directly addressing the point at hand.
Then I discuss the point at hand.
There are many trans youths who seriously fear that their body develops in the "wrong" way. This causes anxiety, depression and suicidal thoughts.
There is medicine that pauses this process so that they can have time to sort the issues and figure out if they want more permanent change.
About half of the country wants this medicine to be banned so that more trans teens would become depressed and commit suicide. They believe it's extremely important that other people follow THEIR moral values, even if that means more people kill themselves. And the worst part is that they are pushing this agenda by claiming they are "protecting the children."
That's like Putin saying he is "protecting" the Ukrainians from Nazis.
Sorry, but if you wish to make the comparison, the burden is entirely upon you to demonstrate:
1) That these two things are essentially similar in all relevant ways
and
2) That there is a compelling reason to shift the discussion to looking at this other thing rather than directly addressing the point at hand.
Then I discuss the point at hand.
There are many trans youths who seriously fear that their body develops in the "wrong" way. This causes anxiety, depression and suicidal thoughts.
There is medicine that pauses this process so that they can have time to sort the issues and figure out if they want more permanent change.
About half of the country wants this medicine to be banned so that more trans teens would become depressed and commit suicide. They believe it's extremely important that other people follow THEIR moral values, even if that means more people kill themselves. And the worst part is that they are pushing this agenda by claiming they are "protecting the children."
That's like Putin saying he is "protecting" the Ukrainians from Nazis.
Or like right-wingers proclaiming themselves to be in favor of "freedom" and "parental choice" while supporting the use of government force to ban private medical decisions made between doctors, parents and adolescents.
Normal means to act in accordance with the norm. As much as you want to portray being trans as the norm, it’s not.
It’s not bigotry to state that fact.
Nonetheless, you are a bigot.
Here, allow me to demonstrate. Since "normal" means "to act in accordance with the norm" (simply going to accept your definition here) then perhaps you should stop using the term "normal" in this discussion and instead use "to act in accordance with the norm".
Now, you will say that it is simpler, easier and shorter to just use the term "normal" and that's why it should be used in this context. But, and here's the important part here, you will be lying. You would not switch to using "to act in accordance with the norm" because there are no positive nor negative connotations with that terminology. You will stick to using "normal" or more to the point, "not normal" for one very simple reason - because this term does bring with it significant negative connotations.
In other words, you are hiding behind your definition in order to show your disrespect for something that you deem "not normal", all while trying to evade being called a bigot.