UNC Runners Crash through ceiling at party

McGovern is supposedly going to go be Flanagan's training partner in Oregon...

I guess my comment is reffering more to the specific statement that I quoted from rather than the actual topic of the discussion, which I don't really know a whole lot about. Partying is great, but it is necessary for an athlete to place more limits on themselves than the typical college student. Yes, I am in college. Yes, I do hang out with people who play sports. Most of the athletes that I know wouldn't party like a "typical college student".

Run Hard and Play Hard. LOVE LIFE.

Amen

Green Street is about 400 yards from the Chapel Hill Police Department. Good choice of location for a party.

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Most of the athletes that I know wouldn't party like a "typical college student".

But let's remember, this is essentially the closest thing to an off-season that distance runners will get over the 9-month period during the school year. The cross-country season is important, and of course outdoor t&f is huge, but I'm afraid that indoor track really is a tertiary consideration.

To the person who named Megan Owen, congratulations. You picked the one who had sense enough to leave UNC and go to a program where she will get better and develop.

First of all, we have no idea that it was just a couple of beers. We have no idea that it wasn't either. However, if you think that drinking two weeks before a race has zero effect on your performance than you are quite simply ignorant. Use the wonder of the internet to do some research. Sure, depending on how much you drink, the effects of the alcohol could be gone by the time that race comes up. However, what about the runs and workouts you are doing in the meantime? It would certainly affect those and those in turn will affect your race performance. Further, if you would read a little and educate yourself on what alcohol will do to your muscle and nerve cells, you'll realize that the effects, although maybe not blatantly noticable by the athlete, are certainly great enough to decrease performance. Don't speak on a topic if you are going to speak from a point of ignorance.

The other person is right, when an athlete signs a scholarship agreement, they agree not just to take the money, but to live up to certain standards. I'm quite sure UNC has a student-athlete handbook or guidelines and I'm sure that responsible and proper conduct is covered in this. By being an athlete and accepting the scholarship, these athletes agree to live by these rules and not be a "typical" college student. Say what you want about not taking running seriously or "having a life" or whatever. The fact remains, if you don't want to live the life it takes to be a great DI athlete, then don't accept a scholarship at a high profile school.

Go back and read interviews with guys like Keith Kelly after he won nationals in XC and see what he attributes to his success. He specifically cited the fact that he stopped drinking and decided to live the life of a runner.

Those of you who argue that it doesn't affect you or is okay are just people who are trying to justify their own inability to sacrifice what is necessary to reach your full potential and therefore wallow in your own mediocrity.

Sorry if my comment offends anyone who runs collegiately since I'm not one myself and can't say that I completely understand your perspective even if i tried but I get pretty pissed when I read about or see people in such blessed positions take their talents and opportunities for granted. I would sacrifice so many things right now to be able to run for the xc and track teams at my school but the bottom line is that I lack talent and have had a lot of problems trying to get in shape to have enough courage to even talk to the coach. These runners have the talent and the opportunity to run and compete for great programs. Just the fact that some of these people take such risks says something about how lightly they view their enviable positions.

brie FELLNAGLE!!!!!! HAHAAHAHAHAHA GET ITT?!?!?!

What comes to mind here is that old line, "What's a nice girl like you doing in a place like this?" So, how many guys met Brie at a party, and nobody took her home...or anywhere?

Guess they really are all gay.

If Brie is going to NCAA nationals, she's already better than almost all college runners. Maybe it's physically bad for runners to drink, but going out and having fun every once in a while is very important for some people mentally. It's exhausting to think about health and running every second. Maybe the fact that some elite college runners sometimes drink means that they know the balance of enjoying themselves while working hard. That guy who said he became great at running because he stopped drinking may have improved phsyically, but I bet he also had less fun in his life at the time. You can say a division I athelete, especially a good one, should have to choose running over fun, but you're also criticizing people who are going to Nationals this year and have found a way to do both.

Its unfortunate that you associate fun with drinking. It is entirely possible to go to a party and have fun without drinking. I'm Keith Kelly was having the time of his life when he was National Champion. I'm sure he felt justified in his choice to not drink. Nowhere did anybody say you have to choose running over fun. If you think that drinking is the only way to have fun then I feel for you.

(Paraphrasing) "All I want to do is drink beer and train like an Animal"

-Rod Dixon

Drunkard wrote:

Its unfortunate that you associate fun with drinking. It is entirely possible to go to a party and have fun without drinking. I'm Keith Kelly was having the time of his life when he was National Champion. I'm sure he felt justified in his choice to not drink. Nowhere did anybody say you have to choose running over fun. If you think that drinking is the only way to have fun then I feel for you.

fun is an emotion, not a rational belief. there is no way to invalidate it through reason. what's fun for some people isn't for others. people don't "think" fun they feel it. so stfu

Sorry Professor. If you FEEL that drinking is the only way to FEEL fun, then I FEEL for you.

haha you make it sound like he didn't do anything....

Drunkard wrote:

Sorry Professor. If you FEEL that drinking is the only way to FEEL fun, then I FEEL for you.

so to sum up, you are not critical of fellnagle, but have sympathy for her. you should have just put it that way from the beginning.

The local ABC News station just had their pictures on the 6:00 news. The specifically pointed out that Brie Felnagel had just won the ACC title. Way to go Brie!

The pictures were same ones that are on the team website. I was hoping they would have shown the mugshots.

After reading the abc11 article it is important to clarify a few things. None of the \"four\" who fell through the roof were charged for anything. Felnagle was spotted trying to leave the party with a beer in hand (word on the street is that she was really not drinking much) and was later caught inside the party. The other three charged were FORMER UNC runners and therefore should not really undergo scrutiny. Furthermore the fact that it was 400 yds. from the police station may be an exaggeration but the fact of the matter is that they hosted several parties at that house previously without any sort of trouble being caused. As for no injuries being reported I have heard rumors otherwise and that a couple of the students who fell through the roof were pretty banged up. It also should be mentioned that the police did a terrible job in this whole matter if, in a party of 150 students, they only made one arrest for underage drinking.