What are the Trans girl US HS records?

Well, that’s one case and it will never happen in a blue state. The federal judge is also a Trump appointee.

You might be correct. Then again, you might not be.

The rights of girls and women (the female kind) to fairness and safety in sports have been recognized and upheld by quite a few governments, judges, courts, sports governing bodies and other relevant organizations around the world that are outside the USA.

Thus their views are unaffected by the particular partisan politics of the USA, and their decisions in support of fairness and safety for us female people can't be written off as the doings of Trump appointees or right wing Republicans out to "own the libs" and otherwise score points in the so-called culture wars.

Two organizations with the strictest policies providing the strongest protections for female-only competition are FINA/World Aquatics and The International Chess Federation (FIDE) - both headquarted in Switzerland.

Other organizations that have put stronger polices in place excluding all or most trans-identified males from female competition include World Rugby, World Boxing Council, UCI, and World Athletics. They are headquarted in Ireland, Mexico, Switzerland and Monaco, respectively.

In the UK, a broad range of court decisions, tribunals, and policies set out by government agencies and quangos ranging from the UK Sports Council to the Equality and Human Rights Commission to the Department for Education have all come out in strong support of female-only sports.

In the UK, there's also been a lot of recognition of late from many in the government, judiciary and the general public of the need for female-only spaces - locker rooms, toilets, changing rooms, hospital wards, barracks, hostels, dorms, prisons, etc -so as to provide girls and women (the female kind) with privacy, safety, dignity, hygiene, peace of mind, bodily comfort and personal convenience when we're outside our homes.

Back in the USA: an important decision in the ongoing fight to exlcude males from female sports was issued just 10 days ago by all 15 judges on a higher federal court in a jurisdiction very different to the Florida one where the judge you dismiss as Tump appointee now serves on the federal bench.

On December 16, all 15 jurists on the United States Court of Appeal, 2nd Circuit - based in New York City - joined in unanimously giving the green-light to a lawsuit lodged by three female former HS runners in Connecticut challenging that state’s policy of allowing male students to compete in girls’ school sports based on the male students’ claim that they “identify as” girls.

The three female plaintiffs are former girls’ HS track athletes from CT who were forced to compete against, and lose to, two male trans-identified students from 2017-2020.

The female athletes are asking to have the records of the races and championships they lost to the male students altered so that the female students who came in first are shown to have won - and all the other female competitors move up a place.

The female plaintiffs are asking to have the record-setting times the males set in the female category expunged as well.

The federal district court judge who originally heard the case had dismissed it on the grounds that the plaintiffs didn’t have standing and also didn’t have legitimate grounds to claim they had been harmed by the CT policy.

In December of 2022, the dismissal was upheld by a three-judge panel of the 2nd Circuit who heard the case and ruled on behalf of the entire 2nd Circuit.

But in a highly unusual move several weeks later, all 15 judges on the 2nd Circuit voted that the case was so significant that it should be reconsidered and given a full hearing - this time by the entire court of 15 judges.

In their new decision, the 15 judges comprising the full 2nd Circuit Court of Appeal disagreed on some fine points of the law. But they unanimously agreed that the female plaintiffs had been "injured" by the Connecticut policy and that they do have standing and a right to seek redress in court.

The 2nd Circuit made it clear that they did not rule on the merit of "Soule et al v. Connecticut." They ruled strictly on the standing of the plaintiffs. They sent the case back to the district court because they believe the case should be decided based on the merit, and should not be dismissed because of lack of standing. They also denied the plaintiffs request for the case to be sent to a different district court. (Pages 44-45 below.)

law.justia.com

Soule ex rel. Stanescu v. Connecticut Association of Schools, Inc., No. 21-1365 (2d Cir. 2023)

The United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit ruled that a group of non-transgender female athletes have legal standing to challenge a policy that allows transgender girls to compete in girls' high school sports....

Link:law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate...

And given the plaintiffs' demand is the reclassification of official result, even if they win, that will not automatically force CIAC to change its policy.

Do trans women have advantage in chess? According to this article, the highest ranked open trans player is #5425 in the world.

sports.yahoo.com

Transgender chess decision: New Fide rules criticised by players but welcomed by committee chair

In August, Fide introduced a ban on trans women competing in female-only events. The reasons and motivations have been questioned by some but welcomed by others.

Link:sports.yahoo.com/transgender-chess-dec...

This player's rating (2260) is 90pts lower than the 100th ranked woman.

What physical advantage do trans women have in chess?

Fairness before inclusion seems to be a theme that is gaining. Open divisions are being offered but nobody is signing up.

Therefore, I restate that the motive isnt about inclusion for whomever you identify as. Its about how those in charge are going to darn well allow it, like it and celebtate it. Good luck, it will never be accepted by the general public. Event promoters, governing bodies etc... have way more to lose than to gain starting with $$$. Thise whobare allowing it are under attack and will be removed from positions of leadership and authority and freak laws will be overturned.

Nobody wants to sit by and watch men who want to look pretty compete against girls and women in any sport. Trans dont want to compete in open divisions because they wont get the affirmation and glory their sick minds require especially when they lose to men or other trans. Too many trans in one place, especially a sporting event, is just a horrible freak show. Bearded ladies want to feel good about themselves and they want YOU to celebrate their freakshow. They dont no how to take no for an answer even though they know it's wrong. Lia Thomas just punked everyone. He's having a great laugh about what he got by with. No different than the Joker in The Dark Knight. Agent of chaos with no standards making weak people expose themselves to all about what they believe behind closed doors.

How big are their cacks?

Update:

Athena Ryan SB are currently 2:35 and 6:08

Using your own stats, you're a criminal that is complicit in the grooming of 1.4% of HS kids (and growing) into mental illness and sexual mutilation. The injuries to female athletes and the cheating them of proper credit and opportunities is just icing on the cake.

Not sure that I follow.

I don’t think anybody will become trans because all of a sudden they can race in their own category. That is not promoting anything. It’s a simple way to deal with the problem of where they should compete.

On a related note. Trans girls are really bad at track and field for some reason.

6:08 for 1600m??? I didn’t think that was possible without walking.

No new records this year in the trans category. Soren Stark’s HS doesn’t seem to have a track team.

Plenty of HS records on boys and girl side, but nothing in Trans category. They are falling behind.

Why are they so slow?

Do they still have weiners?

Ryan ran blistering 5:36 on April 20.

athletic.net

Track & Field and Cross Country Statistics

Rankings for middle school, high school, and college athletes. Compare yourself against athletes in your district, your state, or the nation.

Link:www.athletic.net/result/vOiaA8qh18F0Lz...

Ryan has gone 2:19/2:23/2:33 and 4:52/4:55/5:36 in the last three years.

So why don't we hear this from the rightwing media?

Is that what they mean when the say “it’s the end of women sport”. Slow trans athletes will make watching women track unbearable.

Update: great performance by Gallagher yesterday. Still pretty far from a HS top 10 this year (and very far from all time top 10)

If a special event/category can be held for wheelchair athletes, why can’t we create a category for trans athletes?
Here is my preliminary list:
100m: Terry Miller 11.72
200m:Aayden Gallagher (2024) 23.77
400m Aayden Gallagher (2024) 52.98*
800m: Bel Spelman (2019) 2:12.3
1600m Athena Ryan 4:52.6
3200m Athena Ryan 10:40.4

*=update