Lyles Get Beat in Jamaica

1. Amazing run for Seville. If he stays healthy through trials (which he has had trouble doing as of recent) then he is gonna be a problem in Paris

2. Lyles did get beat, but he was definitely happy with the result. He was running damn near 10 flat last year at this point in the season, and he ran just off his PR.

3. That said, the reigning world champion in an event should not be getting beat in that event. Argue with me all you want. It's a bad look, it's a matter of pride, and it hurts psychologically, which matters a lot at that level, especially when you got beat in the way he did.

Finally someone stepped up to beat him he's not that fast compared to Tyson gay and everyone is running 9.95s why he's beating everyone . Seville gapped him so fast someone else needs to step up and let's see 9.7s and put him into retirement

Men's 100 has been a snooze fest since Bolt. Hopefully oblique Seville can make it interesting.

race starts a little over 3:00 in Lyles was closing fast but spotted him too much early on

Julienne Alfred 10.78 +1.3. Affirms her ability and a big rebound from her loss at Pre to Sha'Carri

All these 200 and 400 specialists are gravitating to the 100 cause it sucks now. 9.80 something, big deal. Nothing interesting has happened since Bolt vs Gatlin and Yohan "banana" Blake as a sideshow.

Why would something interesting have happened since then? Blake, Gatlin, and Bolt are the three greatest sprinting talents this sport has ever seen, probably by a wide margin. Expecting lesser athletes no pick up the slack is unrealistic.

Also, those 3 were likely all doping.

Oh I guess everyone stopped doping, my bad. I didn't know that.

No, they just aren't anywhere near as talented as the 2012 big three were

its been a long and painfully slow build up this year. everything seems slower because the athletes are doing the work to peak for Paris. Compared to other years where we see faster early season and diamond league times it feels slow.

So its good to finally see a low 9.8. and the fact that we are seeing such a low time with not much wind augurs well for Paris.

Lyles' 150m was pretty quick, but we compare to Bolt and Bolt wasnt in super form when he ran his 14.35 150m and /Lyles couldnt beat it.

This run was about as fast as Noah has ever ran- not far off, so hes coming into form.

And theres still weeks to go yet for Paris, so you'd hope to go another tenth faster if conditions allow it..we might be in for a treat and see low 9.7s there..and if they get a decent tail wind, a 9.82 now, with some more speed before Paris, plus an almost 2 m/s wind could bring some 9.6x times.

no evidence at all of Bolt doping. he literally won everything from age 13 onwards. his first 100m was almost 10 flat. if anything we didnt see Bolt ever reach his potential.

why do so many people say they dope when people were running 10.1 on cinder in the 1950s when drugs werent even available?..70 years on, synthetic tracks, full time training, bio passports out of comp testing, hormone monitoring, you name it.

and today there's so much to lose if you cheat. there's no reason why top sprinters couldnt be running legit 9.6 in 2024.

now Gay was definitely a doper. he ran very fast season openers multiple times, and finally got busted.

his 9.69 was with max legal wind and he ran a 9.7x that was actually his fastest adjusted time, but it doesnt count anyway cos he was certainly a juicer. why compare?..his times were all over the place which is a sign of someone cycling.

I do not believe Gay was always a doper. I believe he turned to PED after 2008 to match Bolt's otherworldly performance improvement in an incredibly short space of time and after he got injured.

At Worlds in Osaka 2007, Gay won both the 100/200 and was the dominant sprinter. Bolt was 3rd in the 200M. Eight months later in June of 2008, Bolt showed up in NYC and broke the 100WR running 9.7. You could see the shock on Gay's face. Similar to the shock on Ashford's face when FLO-JO dominated the sprints those few months. Gay then got seriously injured at trials. I believe these two changes were the catalyst for him using PEDs.

Kudos to Oblique. He's a likeable character.

Abby Steiner was to have been in the 200 and was a DNS.

Tyson was definitely a doper. Back in 2001 saidric Williams the old Texas tech record holder 10.11 used to kill Tyson. Put him on the same relay 4x100 as gay and he got sucked up. Saidric didn't even train seriously he was always partying with white girls and smoking weed and he still was faster than Tyson gay. He was always a 10.2 guy until he started administering the drugs then he went crazy when bolt came in and upped the dosage working with Drummond another drug cheat because he wanted to be the worlds fastest.

Pissing hot?

How can Noah run a 19.31 but can barely break 9.8 in the 100M? Could be better at the 400

good gracious me, the ignorance routinely displayed on these boards