What are the Trans girl US HS records?

Zasccdd wrote:

RichardRider wrote:

Of course it doesnt work. And yes, suicide will continue to be a growing cause of teen death not just in Canada where we already know they are struggling with killing off young people but in America as well. Both doctors and psychologist involved in this particular case should have been publicly discredited, stripped of whatever "credentials" they practiced under and sent to prison the remainder of their sick and depraved lives. And yes, groomers do have an effect on students without parent consent and laws in some states are being rewritten to keep them from interfering in the groomers' intentions. Many of these groomers prey on young people that are going through normal puberty issues that require parental guidance, not school intervention without consent. Even worse, many schools have started the process at the youngest ages. Its all part of the Marxist plan to use gay/trans freaks as useful idiots to separate kids from parents and increase indoctrination.

I imagine this thread gets deleted soon which is my intention to stop the support for social deviance.

Let’s stay real here.

a) Trans people exist and they always existed.

Quote from the Bible, which is the oldest book I could find. "A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the Lord your God detests anyone who does this.". This was “problematic” enough 5000 years ago to make it into the Bible. So…

b) Yes, it has become trendy recently, so I assume that some Gays are moving into that territory simply because it’s “trendy” right now.

We can pretend that it does not exist and ignore it.

However, some people have problems with Trans girls competing against girls. Trans girls who fully transition obviously can’t compete in the boy category anymore. Look at June Eastwood for example. She went from a 3:50 (1500m) as a man to a 4:45 mile as a woman. Not all trans go through full transition in HS (which is probably a good thing), so you have a hodge-podge. Nothing wrong in simply creating a new category. I don’t believe that people will transition BECAUSE of that.

1.5% of HS people may be a big enough group to warrant a special category. Maybe events could be limited to the 200m, 800m and 3200m

Zasccdd wrote:

RichardRider wrote:

Of course it doesnt work. And yes, suicide will continue to be a growing cause of teen death not just in Canada where we already know they are struggling with killing off young people but in America as well. Both doctors and psychologist involved in this particular case should have been publicly discredited, stripped of whatever "credentials" they practiced under and sent to prison the remainder of their sick and depraved lives. And yes, groomers do have an effect on students without parent consent and laws in some states are being rewritten to keep them from interfering in the groomers' intentions. Many of these groomers prey on young people that are going through normal puberty issues that require parental guidance, not school intervention without consent. Even worse, many schools have started the process at the youngest ages. Its all part of the Marxist plan to use gay/trans freaks as useful idiots to separate kids from parents and increase indoctrination.

I imagine this thread gets deleted soon which is my intention to stop the support for social deviance.

Let’s stay real here.

a) Trans people exist and they always existed.

Quote from the Bible, which is the oldest book I could find. "A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the Lord your God detests anyone who does this.". This was “problematic” enough 5000 years ago to make it into the Bible. So…

b) Yes, it has become trendy recently, so I assume that some Gays are moving into that territory simply because it’s “trendy” right now.

We can pretend that it does not exist and ignore it.

However, some people have problems with Trans girls competing against girls. Trans girls who fully transition obviously can’t compete in the boy category anymore. Look at June Eastwood for example. She went from a 3:50 (1500m) as a man to a 4:45 mile as a woman. Not all trans go through full transition in HS (which is probably a good thing), so you have a hodge-podge. Nothing wrong in simply creating a new category. I don’t believe that people will transition BECAUSE of that.

1.5% of HS people may be a big enough group to warrant a special category. Maybe events could be limited to the 200m, 800m and 3200m

Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:

Zasccdd wrote:

b) Yes, it has become trendy recently, so I assume that some Gays are moving into that territory simply because it’s “trendy” right now.

I think you have it backwards.

Some trans people used to think they were gay because they didn't know what transgender meant. When they were assigned male at birth and they found themselves attracted to males, they assumed they were gay, because that's all they knew. Well, maybe they were, but they might also be hetero trans women.

If it is the latter, they find yourself different from other gay men, and they realize they don't belong to this group, either. And then they realize you are actually trans. If they know enough about trans people growing up, they won't go through this two-step process. That's why you see more young people identifying as "trans" today.

BTW, we also see more young people identifying as (cis) LGB today. Just another indication that gay and lesbians are not being "transed away."

4:20 is not that fast wrote:

Zasccdd wrote:

Let’s stay real here.

a) Trans people exist and they always existed.

Quote from the Bible, which is the oldest book I could find. "A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the Lord your God detests anyone who does this.". This was “problematic” enough 5000 years ago to make it into the Bible. So…

b) Yes, it has become trendy recently, so I assume that some Gays are moving into that territory simply because it’s “trendy” right now.

We can pretend that it does not exist and ignore it.

However, some people have problems with Trans girls competing against girls. Trans girls who fully transition obviously can’t compete in the boy category anymore. Look at June Eastwood for example. She went from a 3:50 (1500m) as a man to a 4:45 mile as a woman. Not all trans go through full transition in HS (which is probably a good thing), so you have a hodge-podge. Nothing wrong in simply creating a new category. I don’t believe that people will transition BECAUSE of that.

1.5% of HS people may be a big enough group to warrant a special category. Maybe events could be limited to the 200m, 800m and 3200m

Why would someone that is sexually attracted to men want to transgender? It would be next to impossible to find a boyfriend. Just typing something doesn’t make it true.

There have been many posters suggesting a creation of a special category, but only 0-1 people would ever show up. Transgender females want to compete against women, anyway.

Zasccdd wrote:

4:20 is not that fast wrote:

When did you become the spokesperson for transgender athletes? It’s fact that they want to compete against women.

There were a total of 4 transgender XC runners this year in Washington, California and Maine. Who would pay travel expenses for them to meet and compete in the “trans” category.

Is this separate category for all sports? What if one tennis players shows up? What about team sports?

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Yes, team sport would not work. That’s why I am suggesting track (which is an individual sport)

They are getting yelled at during races right now.

1.4% of HS students are Trans. I am pretty sure that more Trans would run if they could have a category which would welcome them. I’m pretty sure that parents would not be yelling slurs at them if they raced against each other. That would be pretty insane.

Zasccdd wrote:

4:20 is not that fast wrote:

When did you become the spokesperson for transgender athletes? It’s fact that they want to compete against women.

There were a total of 4 transgender XC runners this year in Washington, California and Maine. Who would pay travel expenses for them to meet and compete in the “trans” category.

Is this separate category for all sports? What if one tennis players shows up? What about team sports?

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Yes, team sport would not work. That’s why I am suggesting track (which is an individual sport)

They are getting yelled at during races right now.

1.4% of HS students are Trans. I am pretty sure that more Trans would run if they could have a category which would welcome them. I’m pretty sure that parents would not be yelling slurs at them if they raced against each other. That would be pretty insane.

RunRagged wrote:

Zasccdd wrote:

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Yes, team sport would not work. That’s why I am suggesting track (which is an individual sport)

They are getting yelled at during races right now.

1.4% of HS students are Trans. I am pretty sure that more Trans would run if they could have a category which would welcome them. I’m pretty sure that parents would not be yelling slurs at them if they raced against each other. That would be pretty insane.

But you and others seem to be assuming that most of the 1.4% or 1.5% of US students who are, or say they are, "trans" today are males who'd want to be competing in female sports.

I think that's a big mistake.

Traditionally, male children and adolescents who "identified as" the opposite sex outnumbered females by a ratio of about 3 to 1. But in the past 10-15 years, the numbers have been totally reversed.

If the sex ratio of trans-identified kids in US schools is consistent with the sex ratio of American youths going to gender clinics seeking medical interventions to affirm an opposite-sex identity - and the sex ratio of kids who check "trans" in surveys also carries over to American schools - then chances are that 75% of HS students in the USA who "are trans" today are female.

So the pool of male trans-identified students currently in US high schools who might be wanting to participate in girls' sports is actually much smaller than you seem to be assuming.

Zasccdd wrote:

RunRagged wrote:

But you and others seem to be assuming that most of the 1.4% or 1.5% of US students who are, or say they are, "trans" today are males who'd want to be competing in female sports.

I think that's a big mistake.

Traditionally, male children and adolescents who "identified as" the opposite sex outnumbered females by a ratio of about 3 to 1. But in the past 10-15 years, the numbers have been totally reversed.

If the sex ratio of trans-identified kids in US schools is consistent with the sex ratio of American youths going to gender clinics seeking medical interventions to affirm an opposite-sex identity - and the sex ratio of kids who check "trans" in surveys also carries over to American schools - then chances are that 75% of HS students in the USA who "are trans" today are female.

So the pool of male trans-identified students currently in US high schools who might be wanting to participate in girls' sports is actually much smaller than you seem to be assuming.

Didn’t realize that stat.

However, come to think of it Trans boys and Trans girls could probably run together.

if we think of that Trans guy swimmer from Harvard, who was a top swimmer when he was a girl, but then transitioned to being a guy and he was basically one of the slowest swimmer on the Harvard men team. He probably would have done better in the Trans category.

The Trans category would sort of fall mid way