I was really impressed by the interview with him that I read, discussing the development (ongoing) of his technique. Truly a student of his event. Bill Bowerman would have been very proud of this guy.
I’ll never understand the negativity that some people carry. Crouser shatters the world record, and people are trying to argue he should have played another sport??
In case you didn’t know, Crouser comes from a family of throwers. His grandfather, father, uncles, and cousins were throwers. His grandfather taught him how to throw, and he dedicated his Olympic gold medal to him. I guarantee you his success in the shot put means a lot more to him than a career in the NFL ever could.
Congratulations to Ryan Crouser on his phenomenal achievements. He’s doing what he loves, and as a fan of track and field, I’m grateful he’s in our sport.
I'll go the opposite way. I'm not saying NFL players aren't incredible athletes; they certainly are, and the strength and explosiveness of lineman is unbelievable. Not to mention their technique, which takes years to perfect.
But as pure athletic specimens, I'd take Crouser every day. Some posters here are seriously underestimating what it takes to put 20 meters, never mind 23. I don't think there's an athlete in the world who has his combination of strength, athleticism, and explosiveness. This doesn't mean that Crouser would be the best NFL lineman (although I DO think he could make the transition to a successful one). But in sprinting it's well recognized that NFL players may be fast, but real actual sprinters are quite a bit faster. I think the same is true for pure explosiveness: if you want the most explosive athlete, look at the most explosive sport/event, which is shotput far more than the NFL.
There's this weird inferiority complex in track where a lot of people feel that track athletes are the dregs of the athletic world, that somehow all the "real" athletes find themselves in other sports. This despite the fact that it is the #1 or #2 global participation sport, and that a huge number of talented athletes pour their heart and soul into it despite the often-meager rewards. Crouser is self-evidently one of those people, as is clear from his interviews and the way he treats the sport.
Also, note that there's no NFL-equivalent in most other countries. Rugby requires a lot more endurance and wouldn't be a good fit for the really big guys. So if the best potential shotputters all go to the NFL, why are Americans anywhere near the top in the event if they're competing with other countries' best?
Again, NFL players are incredible athletes, and no one else could do what they do. The overall level of competition in the sprints and throws in the US would hugely go up if they all switched sports, which is remarkable since they're predisposed towards a different sport. But when we're talking about someone the level of Crouser, then nah, there's no one who can do what he does.
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Rumor has it that after he feels that he has reached his maximum in the shot, he's going to return to the discus in order to set the world record. The smart money is that he will succeed.
Nah. After the throw he talked about how he hasn’t done any heavy work yet, and is just doing technique work and he has some room to improve with his technique. He’s got some time
Throwing over 22 meters in the shot takes amazing agility, strength and body awareness. Over 23m puts those traits on another level. Ryan is a wonderful once in a lifetime athlete who could certainly excel in football is he chose to. Let’s appreciate what he’s doing and hope that the unbelievable distance of 24 m is coming soon.
I am not saying right this moment. He has no football skills. Had he chose to stick with football and actually had the skills to continue and excel in college then as an average run of the mill lineman he would be much better off today.
Track is not a real pro sport. Most of these Olympians have to get a real job afterwards or sometimes even during their career. It is worse for field events.
Isn't Crouser also a coach?
Alan
I'll go the opposite way. I'm not saying NFL players aren't incredible athletes; they certainly are, and the strength and explosiveness of lineman is unbelievable. Not to mention their technique, which takes years to perfect.
But as pure athletic specimens, I'd take Crouser every day. Some posters here are seriously underestimating what it takes to put 20 meters, never mind 23. I don't think there's an athlete in the world who has his combination of strength, athleticism, and explosiveness. This doesn't mean that Crouser would be the best NFL lineman (although I DO think he could make the transition to a successful one). But in sprinting it's well recognized that NFL players may be fast, but real actual sprinters are quite a bit faster. I think the same is true for pure explosiveness: if you want the most explosive athlete, look at the most explosive sport/event, which is shotput far more than the NFL.
There's this weird inferiority complex in track where a lot of people feel that track athletes are the dregs of the athletic world, that somehow all the "real" athletes find themselves in other sports. This despite the fact that it is the #1 or #2 global participation sport, and that a huge number of talented athletes pour their heart and soul into it despite the often-meager rewards. Crouser is self-evidently one of those people, as is clear from his interviews and the way he treats the sport.
Also, note that there's no NFL-equivalent in most other countries. Rugby requires a lot more endurance and wouldn't be a good fit for the really big guys. So if the best potential shotputters all go to the NFL, why are Americans anywhere near the top in the event if they're competing with other countries' best?
Again, NFL players are incredible athletes, and no one else could do what they do. The overall level of competition in the sprints and throws in the US would hugely go up if they all switched sports, which is remarkable since they're predisposed towards a different sport. But when we're talking about someone the level of Crouser, then nah, there's no one who can do what he does.
No doubt Crouser is an incredible athlete, and someone with the height and strength to make himself so great.
But there would be a lot of potential great shot putters that focused on American football and the NFL.
fortunately Crouser focused on shot put, and the NFL players we will never know.
Super doped record (American of course) stood for three decades and in the last couple of years two Americans have thrown further than it (Crouser 2021, Kocacs 2022) and Crouser now doing clownishly big throws. Sus
Crouser has taken the shot put to an entirely new level. No one has ever been this consistently great before. What Randy Barnes (juiced) was doing in the shot looks pedestrian by comparison. He is throwing 2' beyond Barnes and the doped up Eastern Europeans. The lifting session of Crouser's that I saw was very controlled. He builds up very slowly to a heavy weight but does nothing to shock anyone. He just builds strength without trying to set any weightlifting pr's in a given session. In his way, it reminds me of another all-time great, Eliud Kipchoge, who has found his routines and does those workouts year after year without any hero workouts, just solid, consistent training that keeps him healthy. Crouser is also a student of the shot and is always pursuing better ways of maximizing distance in the ring, the Crouser slide being the product of this study.
I am not saying right this moment. He has no football skills. Had he chose to stick with football and actually had the skills to continue and excel in college then as an average run of the mill lineman he would be much better off today.
Track is not a real pro sport. Most of these Olympians have to get a real job afterwards or sometimes even during their career. It is worse for field events.
Isn't Crouser also a coach?
Alan
I'll go the opposite way. I'm not saying NFL players aren't incredible athletes; they certainly are, and the strength and explosiveness of lineman is unbelievable. Not to mention their technique, which takes years to perfect.
But as pure athletic specimens, I'd take Crouser every day. Some posters here are seriously underestimating what it takes to put 20 meters, never mind 23. I don't think there's an athlete in the world who has his combination of strength, athleticism, and explosiveness. This doesn't mean that Crouser would be the best NFL lineman (although I DO think he could make the transition to a successful one). But in sprinting it's well recognized that NFL players may be fast, but real actual sprinters are quite a bit faster. I think the same is true for pure explosiveness: if you want the most explosive athlete, look at the most explosive sport/event, which is shotput far more than the NFL.
There's this weird inferiority complex in track where a lot of people feel that track athletes are the dregs of the athletic world, that somehow all the "real" athletes find themselves in other sports. This despite the fact that it is the #1 or #2 global participation sport, and that a huge number of talented athletes pour their heart and soul into it despite the often-meager rewards. Crouser is self-evidently one of those people, as is clear from his interviews and the way he treats the sport.
Also, note that there's no NFL-equivalent in most other countries. Rugby requires a lot more endurance and wouldn't be a good fit for the really big guys. So if the best potential shotputters all go to the NFL, why are Americans anywhere near the top in the event if they're competing with other countries' best?
Again, NFL players are incredible athletes, and no one else could do what they do. The overall level of competition in the sprints and throws in the US would hugely go up if they all switched sports, which is remarkable since they're predisposed towards a different sport. But when we're talking about someone the level of Crouser, then nah, there's no one who can do what he does.
I’ll never understand the negativity that some people carry. Crouser shatters the world record, and people are trying to argue he should have played another sport??
In case you didn’t know, Crouser comes from a family of throwers. His grandfather, father, uncles, and cousins were throwers. His grandfather taught him how to throw, and he dedicated his Olympic gold medal to him. I guarantee you his success in the shot put means a lot more to him than a career in the NFL ever could.
Congratulations to Ryan Crouser on his phenomenal achievements. He’s doing what he loves, and as a fan of track and field, I’m grateful he’s in our sport.
Super doped record (American of course) stood for three decades and in the last couple of years two Americans have thrown further than it (Crouser 2021, Kocacs 2022) and Crouser now doing clownishly big throws. Sus
Or...
The natural progression of human physiology is finally catching up to the abberation created by the "juice" era of the 80's/90's, and the record boards are being cleansed.
The guy's broken half a dozen records the past two years, and got tested every time. He's been competing internationally since I think 2015 and doesn't have a blemish on his testing record.
Support your 'Sus' hypothesis with some "knowing something", or 🤫.