I was there as well, and in fact at the coaches meeting. The two things they continually stressed...no cell phones or electronics, and sportsmanship, specifically no celebrations. They were very clear about that, and to relay this to our athletes that such violations would result in a DQ. I said to another coach how they were really emphasizing the whole sportsmanship thing. I hadn't realized the same type thing has happened to the same athlete three months earlier. Whether we coaches agree to the rule or not was not as relevant as whether or not it was made clear, which it was.
When I saw this thread, I initially thought, "Didn't this kid learn anything from indoors?"
Then I watched the tweet and thought, "What an ass of an official. There's nothing wrong with celebrating a win. In football, you spike the ball. In track, you put your arm up. That's not a DQ. There was no taunting at all (didn't he taunt a little ibt indoors?)"
Then I started reading this thread and was thinking, "Unless he was specifically told not to do anything...." Now I"m reading everyone was warned not to do anything and he still did it.
I stilll wouldn't DQ but it's a little more dicey since he was told not to do it.
When I saw this thread, I initially thought, "Didn't this kid learn anything from indoors?"
Then I watched the tweet and thought, "What an ass of an official. There's nothing wrong with celebrating a win. In football, you spike the ball. In track, you put your arm up. That's not a DQ. There was no taunting at all (didn't he taunt a little ibt indoors?)"
Then I started reading this thread and was thinking, "Unless he was specifically told not to do anything...." Now I"m reading everyone was warned not to do anything and he still did it.
I stilll wouldn't DQ but it's a little more dicey since he was told not to do it.
It’s not more dicey. It’s against the rules AND there was a very clear reminder. What should they do . . . “Oh drat, we said not to. Oh well”
“A very clear reminder” for a rule only power hungry pathetic officials would apply in this way, let alone make it a point of emphasis.
I was there as well, and in fact at the coaches meeting. The two things they continually stressed...no cell phones or electronics, and sportsmanship, specifically no celebrations. They were very clear about that, and to relay this to our athletes that such violations would result in a DQ. I said to another coach how they were really emphasizing the whole sportsmanship thing. I hadn't realized the same type thing has happened to the same athlete three months earlier. Whether we coaches agree to the rule or not was not as relevant as whether or not it was made clear, which it was.
>>specifically no celebrations<<
How in the name of the all-mighty could this possibly be enforced? Isn't smiling after a win technically "celebrating"? Would a simple pump fist after crossing the line got a DQ? If he had simply raised one arm with an index finger raised as he crossed the finish line, like you see over a thousand times across the nation every Saturday during the season, would that be a DQ? If you watched the whole meet, did not a single other athlete raise an arm, finger or clench a fist? Nothing? Not one? If so, I pity these kids.
I don't care that he got DQ'ed as I hate showboating more than most, but I hate also vague rules that can be used on anyone, anytime because you can say "technically that qualifies". I wasn't there, so I can only hope they gave much more specific guidelines than "no celebrations or your DQ'ed". That is more than not helpful, you are setting yourself up for some "by the rules" coach filing lots of stupid protests that will be hard to deny.
Again, I really hate showboating. But the idea that "celebrating a win = bad sportsmanship" is too extreme even for me.
The whole idea that this kid is a douche for celebrating against 1A competition kind of rubs me the wrong way. I respect him for the emotion. 1A in Maryland is tiny mountain and beach schools. He is a top 20 HS sprinter of all-time, and he is pumped to bring his relay to a 1A state title. Kudos to him for caring about it. Does he look like a bit of a prick for celebrating like that? Sure, I'd tone it down a bit, but I do respect the emotion.
The officials are being ridiculous for DQing him for this, or being so archaic to ban celebrations. The unsportsmanlike conduct rule is the most subjective rule in track. What constitutes an excessive celebration is so subjective, and only should be held for the most extreme cases. In fact, excessive celebrations should not even be penalized. If a kid goes up to another kid and starts a fight, then sure, DQ. Judson Lincoln probably deserved a DQ in the ACC 400. He directly antagonized a fellow competitor. Championship meets maybe could use a yellow/red card system.
I will say he should have learned something from indoor and not risked it. That is on him. And I read in the earlier post that he was warned. Ridiculous to explicitly ban celebrations beforehand.
Fredrick Post article (outside paywall now) has lots of damning quotes. The comments from his teammate seem to indicate the disqualification was well deserved.
May 25—LANDOVER — Brody Buffington's life under a track and field microscope took another incredible twist just as the sun started to set Thursday at the Prince George's Sports and Learning Complex. As the Catoctin High senio...
"I am disappointed," Cougars coach Dave Lillard said of the ruling. "I am not disappointed at Brody. I am just disappointed." ...
"In the days that followed [previous disqualification], Buffington joked to the News-Post that his days of celebrating race wins was over. Asked immediately after Thursday's race why he decided to demonstratively celebrate the relay win, Buffington said, "I wanted to get the crowd going. That's why I did that. That's not taunting. That's a celebration."
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Teammate Furious Trammel, who ran the second leg for Catoctin on the 4x200 after winning the 1A boys long jump (21 feet, 9 3/4 inches), said in a phone interview that he was upset about the disqualification.
"He knew the rules, and he broke them," Trammel said of Buffington.
Fredrick Post article (outside paywall now) has lots of damning quotes. The comments from his teammate seem to indicate the disqualification was well deserved.
I don't view anything damning in that article at all. The article says the officials deemed his celebration as "excessive" and DQd. That celebration wasn't excessive. Bogus DQ.
That's a simple conclusion. If he was DQd for excessive celebration that's a lie. End. Of. Story.
We're holding high schoolers to higher standards than olympians. Usain Bolt did this in half of his races. Noah Lyles stares down Knighton in several races. But this is what is too far?
Officials on power trips are a plague on youth sports in this country.
Skin color privilege. Notice the skin color of all the officials? Then look at the color of the athlete. White can't be right, and black can never be wrong/criminal/racist.
officials let hs basketball players dunk on each other and then walk over a fallen player while staring them down, but in track you get dq'd for raising your hands up before finishing?
i can't wait until there are no more biased human officials/refs/umps in sports. AI is going to be great for athletics.
What do people think of this decision? Do you blame it on the athlete or coaches for not learning their lesson during indoor?
When I saw this thread, I initially thought, "Didn't this kid learn anything from indoors?"
Then I watched the tweet and thought, "What an ass of an official. There's nothing wrong with celebrating a win. In football, you spike the ball. In track, you put your arm up. That's not a DQ. There was no taunting at all (didn't he taunt a little ibt indoors?)"
Then I started reading this thread and was thinking, "Unless he was specifically told not to do anything...." Now I"m reading everyone was warned not to do anything and he still did it.
I stilll wouldn't DQ but it's a little more dicey since he was told not to do it.
this reminds me of a great anthem by ROTM: fk you i won't do what you tell me, fk you i won't do what you tell me...FK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!
i like this kid's style. he still has spirit in him.
I was there as well, and in fact at the coaches meeting. The two things they continually stressed...no cell phones or electronics, and sportsmanship, specifically no celebrations. They were very clear about that, and to relay this to our athletes that such violations would result in a DQ. I said to another coach how they were really emphasizing the whole sportsmanship thing. I hadn't realized the same type thing has happened to the same athlete three months earlier. Whether we coaches agree to the rule or not was not as relevant as whether or not it was made clear, which it was.
The rules have been posted in this thread and said to be cited by the officials say nothing about celebration. The officials made up a rule outside the book and enforced it?
I disagree that celebrations are unsportsmanlike. It's being human, showing emotion, not being a robot. Do they want to encourage kids to be dead inside?
In cycling, they teach you to celebrate if there is room to do it. That includes zipping up your jersey and sitting up so people can read your sponsor and doing something with your arm(s). It doesn't matter if the other competition is far back/not good, you celebrate when you win because it's your job to represent your team and sponsor. Literally zero cycling fans consider it unsportsmanlike. Why should be viewed negatively in high school? The officials need to get a life.
Talked with the coach of the 2nd place team(who's team was awarded with the win). He along with the majority of coaches was disgusted with the disqualification. No one saw any excessive celebration or taunting. Just a kid excited about securing a victory. Some people need to get the stick out of their a$$.