We've closed this thread to new posts. Wiley's participation at Huntington has been much discussed and nothing new is coming out on page 7 and the same people are going back and forth with the same arguments.
Aiming to make a world team this summer (1500m?), has been working on strength and can run a 5k faster than 15:30's.
Mentioned her quintuple at NAIA nationals was a "workout".
Her progress is really something and has very ambitious goals (3rd place USATF road mile behind Sinclair Johnson).
But, why is she still at Huntington? It seems like her focus is entirely on pro meets and not on the NAIA. And then there is the sketchy coaching situation and PED scandal. Not sure what to think here.
Your answer may be on page 41: https://www.letsrun.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/full-police-report.pdf
"Mr. Johnson stated he wanted Victim 1 to attend HU for schooling but the focus
would have been professional athletics and not HU athletics."
I'm sure it is just a coincidence that HU now has an athlete that is doing this exact same thing even though the Johnsons were fired in 2020 and 2022. No university or coaching staff could be that morally bankrupt to let this terrible situation continue under their watch, right?
There’s no doubt that Wiley is talented. I would really like to see her get away from HU.
I would also like to see what she is capable of at a place like Colorado, New Mexico, Alabama, or God forbid, NC State. Any place with a good program, really. I would like to see if she improved at one of those programs, stagnated, or waned a bit. How she would do would answer a lot of questions about the HU program.
Additionally, I have my doubts that she’s faster than “15:30s” over 5000. Her sweet spot seems to be the 1500/mile.
After the initial abuse scandal broke with Nick Johnson, the univerity moved swiftly to address the scandal by hiring....his wife. So if you are looking for morals, you are looking in the wrong place.
As to Wiley, she is at Huntington because of PEDs, plain and simple. Her coach/mentor Lauren Johnson's entire running career was based on PEDs as supplied by Nick, and Wiley obviously does not believe she can run fast without them. It is one thing for pros to dope, as distasteful as the subject is to discuss. That is what it is. But even putting the sexual abuse allegations aside, the red lines crossed in doping college athletes and clearly Wiley while she was still in high school are insane. If people want to pretend these are just legal allegations, well Nick Johnson admitted massaging his athletes, having products like testosterone cream and even crazier, injecting his athletes with "vitamins." The whole scandal is surreal and Wiley should not be permitted to compete at all unless she was getting targeted testing every month.
If she was so naturally talented she would have gone to CU. There was only one reason to stay at HU and with the Johnsons.
This whole situation has been a nightmare from every conceivable angle
Despite the PED association, I just really feel bad for Wiley herself. A teenager should never have been put in the situations she was in, and still is in now. I hope she can get out before its too late
astro wrote:
If she was so naturally talented she would have gone to CU. There was only one reason to stay at HU and with the Johnsons.
Dude, Mr Touhy, pls give this girl a rest. She ran incredibly fast as a Freshman in HS before regrettably meeting the Johnsons. She’s talented like KT. Get over your hate.
Ok. So, your theory is that the Johnsons identified her in JrHigh and gave her the PEDs so that she ran fantastically as a Freshman. Got it.
I highly doubt Mr tuohy would post on this giant toilet bowel of a message board!
As for pro races Tuohy has the same deal. She skips a lot of team meets and focuses on races like Millrose and Dr Sander where she races pros and the rest of her team does not compete. Next up is the Track Fest 5000 another pro race.
The Huntington team is at Drake Relays. Wiley arrived early to run the road mile in addition to the 1500 on Saturday. Her only meet so far without her team was USATF indoors.
YouSuck wrote:
Ok. So, your theory is that the Johnsons identified her in JrHigh and gave her the PEDs so that she ran fantastically as a Freshman. Got it.
No, I find that an explanation why she is loyal to them. In the long thread some posters implied that Johnsons were 'like family' to her.
I'm aware of both doping and sexual allegations, but I'm more interested in what Nick will ultimately be convicted of, and how he can move on with his life afterward. It's probably 50/50 if this ever comes to trial at alI.
I don't think she's on peds, she's tested more than the NCAA runners, and other than being fast, there aren't any physical signs. IF she was being systematically doped, it would have started in high school (state and national titles, 4:26, us u20 champ, world u20), not for her freshman yr of college.
Could Tuohy beat Wiley in a head to head match up ?
***if Wiley was fresh not quintupling***
Suurrreeeeee. Lol.
Btw what were these incredibly fast times?
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