This thread was originally titled, "Incredible development in the $612,000 Transcon Goodge run, currently ongoing" but the new title is more descriptive. The description of the run is here.
WG is continuing on though according to Instagram..
Oh s#$%. I just looked at WG's run from yesterday. He had an extended period with HR data below 100, from roughly mile 14.7 to 27.3. This is undoubtedly related to the latest turn of events.
Seems like the runner cleaned up his act when observed, and is no longer in the mental or physical position to finish to feat because he was logging legitimate miles while under observation. The observer expects that the runner will DNF. Once the effort is dropped there's really no need to continue the investigation. However, the investigator has cautioned that if the runner continues and his data is again "unique" then the community again needs turn a critical eye towards the situation.
What am I missing?
This is exactly how I am reading between the lines too. Let's just see if a run actually happens today on Strava! As with the amazing "Death of Stalin" movie, "DNF of Goodge" would be something you could only hide for a few days...
My reading of the "overnight development" and reaction to it is that they have threatened him with legal proceedings. Nothing to do with the running. That's why all the posts have been removed.
Bizarre indeed. Cockerell was vigorously defending his position for the first 12 pages of this thread, and most people were on his side based on comments and the upvote-downvote ratios. Yet on page 12 he says he “lost the room” and finally on page 15 “Obviously I will and never can win on here.”
Doesn't take many individuals to derail a thread on letsrun, particularly on topics that invoke emotional responses in people. (even in terms of up/down votes).
You see the same on the doping threads. It's a couple of very vocal 'pro-doper' types who use multiple handles to comment and have multiple registered accounts to spam down vote people who are against doping.
My reading of the "overnight development" and reaction to it is that they have threatened him with legal proceedings. Nothing to do with the running. That's why all the posts have been removed.
I will happily admit that I am wrong about this, but I don't think it has anything to do with the threat of legal action because a) his most recent post is highly critical of the operation and b) he used the language "if the challenge continues".
WG is continuing on though according to Instagram..
Oh s#$%. I just looked at WG's run from yesterday. He had an extended period with HR data below 100, from roughly mile 14.7 to 27.3. This is undoubtedly related to the latest turn of events.
This is going to get really interesting.
I think you will find that when his cadence drops into the 130s or below his HR also drops significantly.
The section yesterday was a flat, with some downhill, 10 mile stretch where he slowed way down, cadence slowed AND his HR dropped. This was consistent.
Earlier, the first 14 or 15 days he was using a Garmin 245, that was giving the bad data. Now that he's using a Coros Vertex 2 his data has looked much more consistent. His HR matches his cadence when accounting for hills.
WC was observing him during this period as well per his facebook post that is now deleted. He was watching miles 19-23 I believe.
Quite. Much like when WG was running with Grice, by claiming there's something wrong with the data when he was clearly actually running just undermines the whole "dirty data" theory.
Oh s#$%. I just looked at WG's run from yesterday. He had an extended period with HR data below 100, from roughly mile 14.7 to 27.3. This is undoubtedly related to the latest turn of events.
This is going to get really interesting.
I think you will find that when his cadence drops into the 130s or below his HR also drops significantly.
The section yesterday was a flat, with some downhill, 10 mile stretch where he slowed way down, cadence slowed AND his HR dropped. This was consistent.
Earlier, the first 14 or 15 days he was using a Garmin 245, that was giving the bad data. Now that he's using a Coros Vertex 2 his data has looked much more consistent. His HR matches his cadence when accounting for hills.
I see what you mean, at least some of the time. But how would you explain his cadence (and HR for that matter) from miles 45.8 to 47.6 on Day 24?
I think you will find that when his cadence drops into the 130s or below his HR also drops significantly.
The section yesterday was a flat, with some downhill, 10 mile stretch where he slowed way down, cadence slowed AND his HR dropped. This was consistent.
Earlier, the first 14 or 15 days he was using a Garmin 245, that was giving the bad data. Now that he's using a Coros Vertex 2 his data has looked much more consistent. His HR matches his cadence when accounting for hills.
I see what you mean, at least some of the time. But how would you explain his cadence (and HR for that matter) from miles 45.8 to 47.6 on Day 24?
Where his cadence is in the 170s and HR in 150s? I don't know what you are saying. He was walking at mile 45.5 (cadence 130 and HR 125) then running at mile 45.9 ( cadence 176 and HR 139)
According to the internet the average walking pace of a very fit male is 15 minutes per mile. Strava says his elapsed pace for his 50 miles yesterday is about 14 minutes per mile.
At the walking then running paces the 110-120 bpm heart rates are not alarming.
According to the internet the average walking pace of a very fit male is 15 minutes per mile. Strava says his elapsed pace for his 50 miles yesterday is about 14 minutes per mile.
At the walking then running paces the 110-120 bpm heart rates are not alarming.
he's determined to slog it out, but 50 miles a day at ~14 minutes per mile is just not impressive at all really is it? just long long days, but no athletic feat
still, he'll be lean and mean ready to chase that sub 3 marathon after this
According to the internet the average walking pace of a very fit male is 15 minutes per mile. Strava says his elapsed pace for his 50 miles yesterday is about 14 minutes per mile.
At the walking then running paces the 110-120 bpm heart rates are not alarming.
I was going to say the same. I was out for a crappy, knackered jog yesterday and decided to try a few variations. Running I was in 125-140 area, but when I walked for a bit my HR would go to under 100. HR of 100-110 at 10 minute miles when running is not real and a red light. HR of 100-110 at 14-15 minute miles is reasonable, as the guy is walking.
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