ritz could break an hour for 13.1 mi?

milk. it does a body good.

Flagpole Willy wrote:

I'm not BETTING that he'll run 12:50. Based on his injury-laden past, I would not bet money on it.

you don't know a lot about arguement construction or investment risk let alone distance running, do you FW?

Here you say 'i wouldn't bet on it' while in your earlier post you tell us all to 'bank on it'. seems to me you've realised the stupidity of your claims and are backtracking but thats just my opinion. Hey, maybe i'm wrong and you're just a retard.

Best of luck to ritz and i hope he runs well but my prediction for lifetime PRs is 13'05 - 13'10 and 27'00 - 27'10.

And that's no way a failure. Give the kid a break, lay off the pressure, its hard enough for anyone let alone an injury prone darling of the US.

wannabekila wrote:

Flagpole Willy wrote:

I'm not BETTING that he'll run 12:50. Based on his injury-laden past, I would not bet money on it.

you don't know a lot about arguement construction or investment risk let alone distance running, do you FW?

Here you say 'i wouldn't bet on it' while in your earlier post you tell us all to 'bank on it'. seems to me you've realised the stupidity of your claims and are backtracking but thats just my opinion. Hey, maybe i'm wrong and you're just a retard.

Best of luck to ritz and i hope he runs well but my prediction for lifetime PRs is 13'05 - 13'10 and 27'00 - 27'10.

And that's no way a failure. Give the kid a break, lay off the pressure, its hard enough for anyone let alone an injury prone darling of the US.

No backtracking on my part...12:50 and 26:50. I stick by those times. Plus, if I tell YOU to bank on it, then that's up to you. Doesn't mean I have to place a bet.

Also, nothing I say here puts any pressure on Ritz. I'm sure he puts more on himself than I could ever do. I agree with you that if he runs the times you suggest that he's no failure. I bet he wouldn't think so though (although even with your times predicted for him he'd still have the 10,000 AR). I just see a guy who has loads more talent than Meb does, and if Meb can run 13:11 and 27:13, then Ritz can eventually run significantly better...to the tune of 12:50 and 26:50 (assuming of course that he doesn't soon go for the marathon). Maybe Alan Webb will run an even faster 5,000. Who knows?

Flagpole Willy wrote:

Also, nothing I say here puts any pressure on Ritz. I'm sure he puts more on himself than I could ever do. I agree with you that if he runs the times you suggest that he's no failure. I bet he wouldn't think so though. I just see a guy who has loads more talent than Meb does, .. significantly better...to the tune of 12:50 and 26:50

You sure are one know-it-all SOB.

Meb also got lapped at the Olympics and quit. That doesn't mean he can't break sixty minutes for a half. That was a completely unintelligent comment. Ritz will be good on the roads. He doesn't get injured because of the length of his races. He gets injured from the intensity at which he trains. Longer races such as the half and marathons require a far less intense training regime then say the training for a 5k or 10k on the track. It'll come, in time.

Jefferson wrote:

What the hell has this guy done to warrant all this ass-kissing? For the love of God, he got lapped at the olympics, and then quit....

I'm sorry, but these are the pussiest excuses for predictions ever. All you are doing is trying hedge your bet. If Ritz stays healthy, if Ritz doesn't go to the marathon too soon. You are setting yourself up to win no matter what. If Ritz never makes these times, you'll have an excuse to fall back on. Take everything into account and decide what you think Ritz is going to run. If its 12:50, great, just dont act like a nancy and try to cover your ass so you have somewhere to fall back on when he doesnt make your times. Put your balls out there and be a man. Its not hard, watch this: My prediction: Ritz will never run 12:50 or even 13:00 for that matter in the 5k. He will not run under 26:50 or even 27:00 for the 10k. These are my predictions, whether he stays healthy, moves to the marathon whatever. If I'm wrong, you can flame me. Why are you so scared to make that kind of prediction? Are you scared to get flamed on a messageboard? You are such a fancy lad.

Ha! Dude, you haven't been on this message board long if you think I'm afraid of being flamed. I couldn't care less. Sorry if some of you get your panties in a bunch over some predictions. 26:50 UNLESS he moves up the the marathon before his prime in the 10,000 is over. Nothing wrong with that. Some of you have said he's too injury prone to EVER move up to the marathon, so maybe he won't. Lots of people get to the end of their career and people say, "he was predicted to do [this] and he was predicted to do [that], but injuries kept him from reaching that potential." My picking out PRs for Ritz is to show the potential I believe he has. Lots of things have to go right for him, but if they do (and again, I think there's a very good chance they will) then he'll reach those marks I mentioned. If he moves up to the marathon and runs 2:07 flat then great. He's going to do more than many here think. Alan Webb is great. Ryan Hall and Ian Dobson are very good. Dathan Ritzenhein is great. He doesn't get enough respect here. His 1500 PR is pretty much the same as Meb's (3:42), and Ritzenhein ran that a few years ago now -- he's surely got sub 3:40 1500 speed in him. I just don't get the argument that he doesn't have the wheels to bust a great 5,000 or 10,000.

He will.

Kudos for a great call, FW. I'm suddenly interested in hearing you play the piano.