Aaron Sahlman 800 record chances.

Why in the world do folks think Aaron has a shot at the 1 & 2 mile records? Zero percent chance, IMO. He ran a solid race at NXN (while others faltered) and wasn't that impressive the rest of the XC season. He won't get near the 800-2 mile records.

U19 would include a bunch of college freshmen... And no other than Kenya, nobody is pumping out 1:46.5 18 year olds on a regular basis.

I will go with the club systems being better than the school systems at getting elite athletes good coaching.

He ran an 8:02 early ast year and has 4:02 speed. That is the type of guy who had a shot at the 2mile record. But it doesn't sound like he is going for it. 3:53 is much,much harder

Aaron ran a 22.64 200 at the end of his workout today. That's pretty fearsome raw speed for an NXN champ. Surprised his mile last week didn't go better but the HS 800 record is in real danger this season.

that's a ridiculous time wtf, also he said it's the last 200 meaning he had a workout before then, man's talent is unreal

Aaron heard u guys talking sh*t and decided to show his speed

A self reported/running start time means nothing. He won’t sniff the record.

Michael Granville National 800m Record

@ Cali State Meet Prelims Cerritos College 1996

No, I don't have faith in NP without its coach, but they still did win the national championship as a team and as an individual this year. I didn't predict Aaron would go sub 1:47. What I am saying is that top high school milers typically prioritize that event because it has the most famous barrier in track and field and gets them the most attention, so that the best distance guys suitable to challenge the 800m record don't go after it. But when they do later on, they often run 1:43-46, so 400-800 speed isn't the only way to run fast 800s and the only thing protecting the 800m hs record from milers is that they don't prioritize it. Did Peter Elliott have 46 speed or Steve Cram or Steve Scott or Matt Centrowitz or any number of others? 22.64 predicts 49, but it was at the end of a workout, so maybe he can run 48.5.

Here's Michael Granville talking about his training and when he broke the record:

I don't understand this narrative. Not only has Tanya Brosnan been part of the NP program since Sean started coaching there, they are married. They literally live in the same house together. Sean is absolutely helping out NP on the side. The top athletes probably still see Sean regularly.

Exactly hand timed, plus with a running start this is worth a 24 second 200m. On a good day I give him a 23 FAT which will barely put him under 50 seconds for the 400m

They didn't have 46s speed. They did have 48 low type speed. 22.64 hand timed with who knows what type of start is probably like a 23 low. That is low 49 speed. That is good speed. It isn't insane...

This was a running start, for some context Donovan Brazier has run a sub-10 100m with a running start.

Serious question from an old timer - I always assumed that a time with the hundredths precision (like 22.64) was an automatic timer, and hand times were only good down to the tenths. Or so it was 30 years ago. In this new age, are people able to get automatic timing on workouts?

Sorry, I posted before seeing this was already discussed

Yes it is possible with stuff like freelap. Lots of pros get FAT times on a regular basis in workouts.

That said, that 22.64 is absolutely a hand time. Literally 0 chance its automatic.

Yep. 1:46.11. You read it here.

You don't know what you're talking about. 23 speed might equal 49-50 for a sprinter-type, but distance runners typically even-split their 400's and run much closer to their 200 PR's while doing it. I could see Sahlman hitting 47-high to 48-low, which should be plenty of speed to run 1:46 with his endurance.