I'm two years younger than Kipchoge and somehow have his height and weight. I rarely raced the 1500/mile, but I did run a 52" 400 back in my college days. Haven't done anything much besides strides and easy jogs since then.
I'm not trying to make a bet or anything, and in any case, there are no races in late December for me to test out that theory. This is more of a 'shower-thought' that I had.
I'd probably be sore for a week afterwards though.
I'm two years younger than Kipchoge and somehow have his height and weight. I rarely raced the 1500/mile, but I did run a 52" 400 back in my college days. Haven't done anything much besides strides and easy jogs since then.
I'm not trying to make a bet or anything, and in any case, there are no races in late December for me to test out that theory. This is more of a 'shower-thought' that I had.
I'd probably be sore for a week afterwards though.
You dont need a race to find out but its a great excuse to make so you can tell yourself this. 0/10
Yet you are not willing to try and test your theory. You don't need a race to test your theory.
True, but I don't know anyone who could pace me to a 4:36, and even if I did, I'd have to order some superspikes. I'm not going to spend nearly $200 just for this, and who knows where my college spikes are, assuming they haven't been thrown in the garbage bin a long time ago.
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Were you masturbating when you had this 'shower-thought'?
Yet you are not willing to try and test your theory. You don't need a race to test your theory.
True, but I don't know anyone who could pace me to a 4:36, and even if I did, I'd have to order some superspikes. I'm not going to spend nearly $200 just for this, and who knows where my college spikes are, assuming they haven't been thrown in the garbage bin a long time ago.
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Were you masturbating when you had this 'shower-thought'?
No.
Go out and run a 4:45 and we will give you credit for not having a pacer/super spikes...
If you have been doing 20mpw with some quality, I have no doubt it is doable for someone who was say a 4:20 guy earlier. If you have run a 70s 400m in a decade, you might find it shocking.....
True, but I don't know anyone who could pace me to a 4:36, and even if I did, I'd have to order some superspikes. I'm not going to spend nearly $200 just for this, and who knows where my college spikes are, assuming they haven't been thrown in the garbage bin a long time ago.
No.
Go out and run a 4:45 and we will give you credit for not having a pacer/super spikes...
If you have been doing 20mpw with some quality, I have no doubt it is doable for someone who was say a 4:20 guy earlier. If you have run a 70s 400m in a decade, you might find it shocking.....
I don't have a readily-accessible pair of regular spikes either. I've regularly done 18-20 mpw but with little quality. Just some occasional strides and maybe a fartlek or hill run once or twice a month.
I've never run a sub 4 1500 or a sub 4:20 mile but did get close on the few times I raced those events. I still maintain that I could run a 4:36 by December 31 if I had the motivation and opportunity.
You can shower as long as you want, this will not happen.
I could spend more time showering than running and still be able to run a 4:36 on a month's notice. Seriously, how hard can it be for a lean ex-college runner to run one mile at WR marathon pace? That's not even 4% of the race.
I just read about a guy who basically stopped running last July and ran a 4:38 mile using an alternative training program.http://www.fasterthanforty.com/the-irun-new-balance-mile-no-running-strikes-again/I was brought up on d...
Go out and run a 4:45 and we will give you credit for not having a pacer/super spikes...
If you have been doing 20mpw with some quality, I have no doubt it is doable for someone who was say a 4:20 guy earlier. If you have run a 70s 400m in a decade, you might find it shocking.....
I don't have a readily-accessible pair of regular spikes either. I've regularly done 18-20 mpw but with little quality. Just some occasional strides and maybe a fartlek or hill run once or twice a month.
I've never run a sub 4 1500 or a sub 4:20 mile but did get close on the few times I raced those events. I still maintain that I could run a 4:36 by December 31 if I had the motivation and opportunity.
You can shower as long as you want, this will not happen.
I could spend more time showering than running and still be able to run a 4:36 on a month's notice. Seriously, how hard can it be for a lean ex-college runner to run one mile at WR marathon pace? That's not even 4% of the race.
Well, considering how hard it is for a large percentage of current college athletes to run 5k at marathon world record pace... pretty hard for a mid-thirties guy who has mainly maintained weight to run that pace, even for a mile. 800 meters at that pace is a completely different story - if you have jogged, done strides, and played any rec league sports, you should be able to maintain that pace.
Incidentally, I am also about the same age as you, and ran 4:35-high for my annual "Thanksgiving mile" time trial this year. However, from the sound of it, I have tried a lot harder to stay in racing shape than you have.
On a side note, if you were a 14:20ish or faster 5000 meter guy in college, this is the main way I see you having a chance. Maintaining your own previous 5k pace for a mile is a different story than maintaining marathon WR pace.
Everyone is different, and maybe you could. But there are only two real-world possibilities: you do it or you don’t do it.
I’ll give you my context: I was a 3:43 1500 guy in college, stayed in peak shape until my late 20s. Stopped training seriously in my early 30s, but never stopped running (i.e. usually got in ~15-20mpw, sometimes more, with occasional workouts). Ran a mile on the track at age 39 in spikes just for fun, and ran 4:39.
I was genuinely shocked by how slow I’d gotten. But like I said, everyone is different. I was (and still am) at my college racing weight, but probably lost more muscle than I could really afford.
I'm two years younger than Kipchoge and somehow have his height and weight. I rarely raced the 1500/mile, but I did run a 52" 400 back in my college days. Haven't done anything much besides strides and easy jogs since then.
I'm not trying to make a bet or anything, and in any case, there are no races in late December for me to test out that theory. This is more of a 'shower-thought' that I had.
I'd probably be sore for a week afterwards though.
So I went to the track today, and I will admit that I'm less confident than before.
I spent maybe a minute trying to find my old spikes before saying "f*** it" and deciding to do a solo time trial in trainers. I did my usual warmup, followed by a 100m stride at 4:36 pace. Not tiring, but uncomfortably fast. Bad sign.
I went out in 5 flat pace and realized halfway through that I wouldn't be able to crack 5 today. Dragged my butt across the finish in 5:08 and felt my legs burn like crazy. Superspikes, competition, and workouts would drop my time by quite a bit, but going from 5:08 to 4:36 in a month wouldn't be easy even though I still think it's barely doable.
Sub 5:00 for sure. Maybe 4:50 with two workouts/week for a few months. A 36-year-old former 4:00 1500 guy probably needs more than two months to run 4:36, but maybe I'm underestimating you.