Cooper Teare posts insane workout on strava

Peach Pit wrote:

Jack Parker wrote:

20 people ran faster than 13:29 last year in the NCAA, times are different now, doesn't mean they will run 12:46. Ill take the under on Teare becoming the fastest person ever not born in Africa. Tbf would have said the same about Fisher as well.

None have run faster than 13:06 though. If I was betting on anyone to run 12:40s, it'd be the guy training with multiple 12:4x guys who has 3:33 wheels and has already run 13:06 with a 55 last lap. Of course, it's always easier to take the bet that he won't become the fastest person not born in Africa simply based on odds, but that's no fun in a prediction. When there's someone who is set up perfectly to be one of the fastest ever, I think we should stop saying they aren't gonna make it to the next level. The message should be that with consistent, healthy training, top talents can become world class.

I think Rupp is less talented than Teare. Even with AlSal as his coach, he only ran a better 5k than Teare in HS. At Oregon, Teare finally had a great coach, and he ran 3:50/7:46/13:12, the latter 2 in championship races. If he stays healthy through 2024, I think he's a medal threat. Will he stay healthy? Who knows, but there's no reason we should bet that he gets injured. He's not particularly injury prone, and getting injured once isn't a bad sign.

teare it up wrote:

Peach Pit wrote:

None have run faster than 13:06 though. If I was betting on anyone to run 12:40s, it'd be the guy training with multiple 12:4x guys who has 3:33 wheels and has already run 13:06 with a 55 last lap. Of course, it's always easier to take the bet that he won't become the fastest person not born in Africa simply based on odds, but that's no fun in a prediction. When there's someone who is set up perfectly to be one of the fastest ever, I think we should stop saying they aren't gonna make it to the next level. The message should be that with consistent, healthy training, top talents can become world class.

I think Rupp is less talented than Teare. Even with AlSal as his coach, he only ran a better 5k than Teare in HS. At Oregon, Teare finally had a great coach, and he ran 3:50/7:46/13:12, the latter 2 in championship races. If he stays healthy through 2024, I think he's a medal threat. Will he stay healthy? Who knows, but there's no reason we should bet that he gets injured. He's not particularly injury prone, and getting injured once isn't a bad sign.

Teare's mile converts to 3:33.17. Not many people in that world 5k final can match that speed including Fisher.

Teare potentially has a higher ceiling than Fisher because of the speed. It depends on if he can stay healthy and if he's as disciplined as Fisher.

Teare cant do no 10k wrote:

u dont get this running thing do you? wrote:

Kincaid can "outkick" a lot of runners and that likely includes Teare. Kicking doesn't always have a lot to do with how fast one can run a 1500m. I suspect Fisher can run 3:33/34.

I don't disagree with the overall thought that Teare could ultimately take down Fisher's current PRs but Fisher can run faster himself and Teare has yet to really lock into a 10,000m. Health will play a big part in how much better Teare gets.

Maybe Teare can run a good 5k, but I doubt a dude who cratered as hard as he did as a 5th year senior trying to keep up with Charles Hicks and Nico Young when they were sophomores at the NCAA XC champs has the aerobic talent to go sub 26:33 in the 10k.

Grant Fisher got 17th, 5th, 5th, and 2nd at the NCAA XC champs and Teare got 44th, 78th, 6th, and like 175th or something his senior year. I really doubt a guy who got all-American in 1 out of 4 attempts in NCAA xc will end up being one of the fastest 10k runners ever.

teare it up wrote:

Teare cant do no 10k wrote:

Maybe Teare can run a good 5k, but I doubt a dude who cratered as hard as he did as a 5th year senior trying to keep up with Charles Hicks and Nico Young when they were sophomores at the NCAA XC champs has the aerobic talent to go sub 26:33 in the 10k.

Grant Fisher got 17th, 5th, 5th, and 2nd at the NCAA XC champs and Teare got 44th, 78th, 6th, and like 175th or something his senior year. I really doubt a guy who got all-American in 1 out of 4 attempts in NCAA xc will end up being one of the fastest 10k runners ever.

he had one bad race but he has placed 6th in the NCAA in cross before and has multiple NCAA championships on the track - Fisher has zero.

He's run faster at 21/22 years old than Grant Fisher did. Is that not enough evidence of aerobic talent? Fisher ran 13:29 in college, Teare ran 13:12.

In the 2021 NCAA track championships, Teare beat Grijalva in a sprint finish at 13:12. Grijalva 1 year later just placed 4th in the WORLD in the 5k.

Video:www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nQWTDqP4fM

Teare has that gear change in the last 200m while Fisher does not.

teare it up wrote:

Teare cant do no 10k wrote:

Maybe Teare can run a good 5k, but I doubt a dude who cratered as hard as he did as a 5th year senior trying to keep up with Charles Hicks and Nico Young when they were sophomores at the NCAA XC champs has the aerobic talent to go sub 26:33 in the 10k.

Grant Fisher got 17th, 5th, 5th, and 2nd at the NCAA XC champs and Teare got 44th, 78th, 6th, and like 175th or something his senior year. I really doubt a guy who got all-American in 1 out of 4 attempts in NCAA xc will end up being one of the fastest 10k runners ever.

he had one bad race but he has placed 6th in the NCAA in cross before and has multiple NCAA championships on the track - Fisher has zero.

He's run faster at 21/22 years old than Grant Fisher did. Is that not enough evidence of aerobic talent? Fisher ran 13:29 in college, Teare ran 13:12.

In the 2021 NCAA track championships, Teare beat Grijalva in a sprint finish at 13:12. Grijalva 1 year later just placed 4th in the WORLD in the 5k.

Video:www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nQWTDqP4fM

Teare has that gear change in the last 200m while Fisher does not.

Teare cant do no 10k wrote:

u dont get this running thing do you? wrote:

Kincaid can "outkick" a lot of runners and that likely includes Teare. Kicking doesn't always have a lot to do with how fast one can run a 1500m. I suspect Fisher can run 3:33/34.

I don't disagree with the overall thought that Teare could ultimately take down Fisher's current PRs but Fisher can run faster himself and Teare has yet to really lock into a 10,000m. Health will play a big part in how much better Teare gets.

Maybe Teare can run a good 5k, but I doubt a dude who cratered as hard as he did as a 5th year senior trying to keep up with Charles Hicks and Nico Young when they were sophomores at the NCAA XC champs has the aerobic talent to go sub 26:33 in the 10k.

Grant Fisher got 17th, 5th, 5th, and 2nd at the NCAA XC champs and Teare got 44th, 78th, 6th, and like 175th or something his senior year. I really doubt a guy who got all-American in 1 out of 4 attempts in NCAA xc will end up being one of the fastest 10k runners ever.