You're right that it would be unlikely (in some ways) for one of the other 2 housemates to have done it, regardless if they were male or female.
On the other hand, just by the mere fact that 2 surviving housemates were housemates, they have to be pretty high on the suspect list... again, regardless of their sex. So, highlighting that the housemates were female seems a bit sexist, no?
Yes it is sexist for objective reasons. It is like saying somebody ran 4:30 for 1600 at your HS and I ask you his name and you tell me it is sexist to assume they are male.
Yes it is sexist for objective reasons. It is like saying somebody ran 4:30 for 1600 at your HS and I ask you his name and you tell me it is sexist to assume they are male.
Understand the point. But in this case, a more appropriate analogy would be like saying somebody ran under 8min at your HS and you ask for his name (because a lot more guys than girls do it) and I tell you it's sexist because a lot of girls can run a sub8 mile, too.
The comment was more like saying, "Well, we can discount the housemates because we know they weren't <insert race>." That would be a racist comment, correct?
OP here. The other roommates are not suspects. It's not been said if they're male or female, but it's assumed they're female from everything else that has been said. The 4 victims absolutely were all killed inside the house. That is certain. The Police have repeatedly said evidence at the scene makes them believe it was a targeted attack, but they will not divulge the details on why they think that. They are also not saying whether the victims were all together or in separate rooms, but I assume they were in separate rooms, partly because it's a tri level house with 2 rooms on each floor, and partly because I think it's unlikely one guy would take on 4 people at once. Everything suggests all 4 victims were asleep, and the perp killed them in their sleep, I'm guessing by something like a slashing to the neck since there was apparently little noise. The scene inside has been described as very complicated...
Also, drugs are not believed to be involved at all, definitely nothing like a drug deal or anything like that. The perp is likely white since almost everyone in Moscow is white.
There was a separate incident in September where someone on campus flashed a knife at a group of people and threatened them, but nothing really has been made of that in connection to this event. The police have not said anything about it, and when it was asked about during the press conference, it was talked about like it was a nothing thing, something that happened and was resolved (the guy apparently turned himself in and explained the verbal altercation).
In the Twitch video, there is a guy seen that kind of hovers behind the girls just standing there watching them, then he starts following them as soon as they start to leave. It's impossible to say if there's anything to that, but it does look very suspicious. I would imagine tracking down that guy would be high on the list.
Again, absolutely horrible tragedy, and such a strange case. Probably gonna be a Netflix documentary on it in a year or two. It would be nice if people could be respectful while discussing this btw. Four families just lost a loved one in a brutal murder, and these kids were 20-21 years old just living their lives. Let's try to be mindful of that.
All of the sororities the girls and the frat the boy belonged to. Imagine how the members are getting questioned about any drama for leads. Who was having sex with who in the last 2 years? Who cheated on who? Hopefully it leads to something quick!
It would be nice if people could be respectful while discussing this btw. Four families just lost a loved one in a brutal murder, and these kids were 20-21 years old just living their lives. Let's try to be mindful of that.
Hmmm... yes. Definitely show respect and empathy to the loved ones by originating social media stories and forum threads about the case.
Four killed and you try to make a joke about it. You’re a POS.
I wouldn't say it's a joke, he's making a point how if it was a gun everyone would be going crazy on gun control as if it's the only way it could have happened and it'd be all over the media. But since it's a knife the media isn't running with it since they can't bring up the hot topic of gun control. If you make it so people can't have a gun they'll kill people other ways, like with a knife. Or they'll drive a car through a crowd of people. Or they'll Ted Bundy them with a log. A gun isn't the only way to kill a person, and it's not the only way to kill multiple people.
And to the people saying "how did no one hear that"... Think of what it sounds like when you cut meat, it's pretty quiet. And when someone is stabbed multiple times in rapid succession they'll make a little animalistic noise but probably not a full on yell heard across the house. And if you have multiple people living in a house it's not out of the ordinary to hear something at some point within the house at night. Could be someone going to the bathroom or in the kitchen getting some water or a number of things.
You're right that it would be unlikely (in some ways) for one of the other 2 housemates to have done it, regardless if they were male or female.
On the other hand, just by the mere fact that 2 surviving housemates were housemates, they have to be pretty high on the suspect list... again, regardless of their sex. So, highlighting that the housemates were female seems a bit sexist, no?
No, it is not sexist at all. And I am not going to address your troll attempt to derail the thread after this. Sexism is NOT the subject of this thread.
"Of all murders with multiple victims, women committed just 6.4 percent."
Wednesday's mass shooting in San Bernardino, California, is among the mere 2 percent that are carried out by women. Police named 27-year-old Tashfeen Malik as one of the two shooters at the Inland Regional Center. She was lat...
You're right that it would be unlikely (in some ways) for one of the other 2 housemates to have done it, regardless if they were male or female.
On the other hand, just by the mere fact that 2 surviving housemates were housemates, they have to be pretty high on the suspect list... again, regardless of their sex. So, highlighting that the housemates were female seems a bit sexist, no?
No, it is not sexist at all. And I am not going to address your troll attempt to derail the thread after this. Sexism is NOT the subject of this thread.
"Of all murders with multiple victims, women committed just 6.4 percent."
It’s not inconceivable that the killer could have killed the 4 without waking up those in a different part of the house. There was a serial killer active from ~1897-1912 who murdered numerous large families in their beds with the blunt side of an axe without rousing anyone. You’re at a distinct disadvantage when you’re fast asleep and some psycho’s made up his mind to kill you; even if one of the victims woke up during the attack, they could have their throat slashed before beginning to realize what was happening.
I don't want to derail the thread, but until more comes out there is nothing more to discuss anyway. You should consider owning up to your sexism or your complete misunderstanding of how statistics work (and how they should be applied), or both.
No, it is not sexist at all. And I am not going to address your troll attempt to derail the thread after this. Sexism is NOT the subject of this thread.
"Of all murders with multiple victims, women committed just 6.4 percent."
It’s not inconceivable that the killer could have killed the 4 without waking up those in a different part of the house. There was a serial killer active from ~1897-1912 who murdered numerous large families in their beds with the blunt side of an axe without rousing anyone. You’re at a distinct disadvantage when you’re fast asleep and some psycho’s made up his mind to kill you; even if one of the victims woke up during the attack, they could have their throat slashed before beginning to realize what was happening.
They could have been drugged, strangled, smothered with a pillow, etc. before they were stabbed. From descriptions of the crime scene, I can see why they think it was a crime of passion and that the killer knew the victims. People bringing up serial killers don't know much about serial killers. I don't think it was one or both of the roommates because they are actively working with police and police said they didn't have anyone in custody. I went down the rabbit hole of the victims' IG accounts and there's an (ex?) boyfriend of one of the victims I'd suspect first.
The pink shirt girl looked quite unsteady. Maybe it was just alcohol, or maybe they had already been drugged without their knowledge by the perpetrator by then? Do we know how they got back home? Like drove, walked, ride shared, or what?
They had been drinking. This was at 1 something in the morning.
Who is the guy with the gray hoodie and black jacket? Seems like he enters the frame with them. Then he just hangs back as if waiting for them, but doesn’t really interact with them or anyone else.
I'm from N. Idaho and the girls were from the towns surrounding my home town. Everyone is shocked, saddened, and extremely perplexed by the evidence (that the police have released).
University of Idaho murder victim Xana Kernodle's father said the 20-year-old had 'bruises' and was 'torn by the knife' while putting up an apparent fight with her attacker.
He seems like a prime suspect at this point. Nothing has been said whether the police have talked to him yet. But he definitely comes off as very suspicious. He is clearly trying to be with them but isn't, they ignore him completely, intentionally, and he just stands there waiting for them and is clearly focused on them. Even pulls up his hoodie and turns his hat around to cover his face some. Super suspicious.
Apparently one of the victims also had a dog in the house... How does a dog not bark and go crazy during this and wake the others? Seems like the murder would have to be from someone who was familiar with the house (and possibly the dog?). Wouldn't the other two roommates have good ideas on who it would be then? But no suspects yet? Such a strange case.
And to someone else who replied, I posted this because we are all wondering and trying to figure out wth happened. More brains working on this is better, and people need to talk about things to process it all too.
