Does anyone have any experience with cutting out alcohol and replacing with occasional smoking in the evening to take the edge off?
I'm getting really sick of drinking too much and am worried I'm destroying my body through binge drinking. I also think cutting back would be beneficial to my work, being a parent, husband and running.
I've tried to cut back a few times in the past but have always come back because I just need something to relax/take the edge off. And all I've know in the past is to have a few beers.
This time, I want to replace with an occasional vape in the evening before bed. I feel like having a little vice is the best way to kick the habit.
Does it work? I've heard secondhand that this can be an effective strategy. However, I don't know anyone personally.
I started vaping years ago I don't drink hardly at all anymore. I'll have a beer but that's it. Maybe two. But for me drinking was a social thing. I would usually drink to loosen up around people because I would be so anxious I would run away from any social gathering unless I was at least a little drunk. And then I would get too drunk and be an ass. I got really tired of that. I don't really feel the need to drink anymore but I'm a daily vaper. I'm not sure I'd recommend it for everyone but for my set of issues it works pretty well to kinda make me a more normal person who can just chill instead of freaking out about everything, getting mad about stupid things, etc.
The thing about weed is that it will change your personality a bit. For me I feel it was for the better and even people in my life that don't like weed would probably agree. But you might find that in the short term your life gets shaken up before you settle into something new. It might be subtle or it could be a big shake up that involves loss of friends or job. For some people this is enough to be a no go. They have so much responsibility and people counting on them to be a certain way that they cannot afford to change much. For people like that, getting into weed can mess up their lives. So that's why I don't go around recommend weed to everyone like some people do.
IF you are going to do the weed thing, my advice is to do edibles. Why breathe something into your lungs?
Ultimately, you would be better off if you could find a way to relax without drugs.
Fair point. Not ruling that out. I feel like I've heard nothing but positives about moderate marijuana use as a substitute prior to posting. Everyone here is definitely giving me some things to think about especially considering I'm pretty new to this area.
Be careful with weed in any form. A minority, but still a LOT of people have severe panic attacks triggered by marijuana. I can't give you any first-hand knowledge as I'm just high on life, but I know from talking to others that if you've never done weed, that you need to start with a very small amount, whether it is inhaled or ingested.
If the choice is either do it or not, I would choose not.
Ever thought of trying to address your addiction issues? It's tough to reprogram your brain. Continuing to feed the problem may not work out the way you hope. Admitting you have a problem with drinking is a step in the right direction.
This is my understanding as well from AA
Most alcoholics who continue to smoke weed after quitting drinking learn that the weed brings them back to their first choice drug alcohol
No one can predict with 100% accuracy how this will go for you. If you think the binge drinking is harming your body I suppose you have several choices including cutting that down/out and replacing it with nothing, or eating a few gummies.
Yes. I quit drinking 18 months ago. I rarely smoked weed prior to that. Now I take a vape hit 3-4 nights per week about an hour before I go to bed. Never during the day, and never if I plan to have any real responsibilities that evening. It helps me relax after a stressful day of work and does wonders for my sleep.
I have no adverse side effects that I can tell. My health and running have improved significantly since I quit drinking. Dropped 15 pounds.
I will probably cut it back to one weekend night only, because even one vape is probably not great for the lungs. I don’t like edibles, and I don’t really even enjoy “the high” from THC at least not compared to an alcohol buzz. But I’m done with alcohol.
I tried to quick drinking for 10 years, and honestly, the thing that finally worked was taking a nightly edible. Haven’t touched booze in over 5 years. Have no desire to. I lost 5 pounds, am less stressed overall, and yes, it does improve intimacy so my wife is happier, too. I hesitate to call it a miracle drug as there are definitely those who have a negative reaction to it, but for me it was a complete game changer and I’m so thankful it’s legal where I live.
I was addicted to nicotine pouches to "take the edge off" as the OP says. It gave me a quick escape when I was stressed or faced the prospect of solving hard problems in my life. Before long I needed more and more. It actually made me more anxious. I wanted to replace with weed and actually began drinking more.
It dawned on me that the only way to get out of the viscous substance abuse cycle was to stop completely. OP, try chewing gum and drinking tea at night, several mugs of tea. It may suck at first but then you'll look forward to the ginger tea
The LR contrarians/puritans will s*** on you for replacing alcohol with weed but overall I think that if you're gonna have a vice like this, weed is the better choice. I've actually done something similar recently, going Sunday-Thursday with no alcohol but a moderate amount of weed in the evenings. How experienced are you with weed previously? You'll probably need to discipline yourself to keep from using more/more frequently. It feels good and leaves no hangover, and if you can be somewhat functional on it it can be easy to fall into a mindset of "let's get high and then do the dishes" type of thinking.
Wrote out a whole long verbose thing about my own experiences here & then deleted it, but suffice it to say I've had a lot of existential crises/frightening thought spirals/paranoid episodes from weed, and I'll take that stuff over a hangover ANY DAY.
Anyway...
Watch out for smoking or vaping too much, your cardiopulmonary system is pretty gd crucial for running performance & longevity. Try figuring out an edibles dose that works consistently for your needs, and mix in smoking sporadically or avoid it entirely. A drink once in a while ain't so bad but the less I drink the better I feel... which tracks with how my 50-60mpw running is going SO well at 30yo, and I'm training a little less than I did in college, when I drank too much and slept too little compared to now (just a handful of drinks per week, 7+ hours of sleep every night, less stress most days).
Half the key when replacing booze with THC (not necessarily smoked, ideally consumed via edible most of the time) is fending off the super unhealthy snacks when you get the munchies. Having fresh fruits, veggies, etc and some fresh cold water is pretty satisfying even when your stoned lizard brain wants some gd doritos and Pepsi and ice cream, or whatever you crave while high. Just gotta tee up that stuff in advance.
+ Not sure how much runners have discussed this on here, but y'all ever pop half an edible and head out the door for a sunset run right when the high is just starting to kick in? Nothing better.
Isn't running relaxing enough? If I drive after a training session, I've got to monitor the car drivers stacking up behind me wanting to overtake me as running makes me pretty chill.
+ Not sure how much runners have discussed this on here, but y'all ever pop half an edible and head out the door for a sunset run right when the high is just starting to kick in? Nothing better.
Brother, I'm stoned for every single one of my tempo runs. Them $hits are boring and I hate it. A few puffs or a small edible right before and I'm ready chill out at threshold for a bit.
+ Not sure how much runners have discussed this on here, but y'all ever pop half an edible and head out the door for a sunset run right when the high is just starting to kick in? Nothing better.
Brother, I'm stoned for every single one of my tempo runs. Them $hits are boring and I hate it. A few puffs or a small edible right before and I'm ready chill out at threshold for a bit.
Are you guys serious? Idk how you're able to run like that.
Brother, I'm stoned for every single one of my tempo runs. Them $hits are boring and I hate it. A few puffs or a small edible right before and I'm ready chill out at threshold for a bit.
Are you guys serious? Idk how you're able to run like that.
I was basically an alcoholic for the first half of my 20s and a stoner for the second half. Recently broke the daily weed habit and I’ve been sober for almost two months.
Weed addiction has its benefits, like no hangovers and no excess calories, but it’s more sinister than alcohol in some ways too. Daily smoking will become all day smoking. Just a hit before work. And the thing is, it’s a little easier to function on. I know people who are high all day at work. I used to smoke in the afternoons at my IT job with no decrease in performance. It actually made it more fun. At first it’s just in the evenings, but it slowly becomes a way to cope with stress all the time.
The only way out of this is complete sobriety. I know that’s probably frightening. It was for me, and maybe you don’t have to be completely sober forever, but there’s no way right now for you to control your substance intake in a healthy way and that’s just a fact. Your brain will tell you it can, but that’s because your brain really wants to continue consuming substances and will argue for solutions that include substances.
Nice throwback to the first time I got sober. I lasted another month after this before slowly picking up drinking again while out with friends. Then was off and on with both drinking and marijuana until three and a half weeks ago. I feel much more done this time though. I got some blood work done and I've actually done a number on my liver in just 30 short years. I recommend anyone reading this who has issues with alcohol to do the same. My uncle, who drank 5-8 Milwaukee's best a day for 30 years and never visited a doctor, is now struggling with cancer and may pass away sometime in the next few years. He's in his mid 60s. It's not worth it. Marijuana is a little healthier on the liver but maybe worse for the soul. Spending an entire Saturday and Sunday high anxious to go to grocery store is no way to live. It's incredibly tough for the first two weeks. Borderline panic attacks every day, but it does get a lot better after that. Hang in there.
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I was basically an alcoholic for the first half of my 20s and a stoner for the second half. Recently broke the daily weed habit and I’ve been sober for almost two months.
Weed addiction has its benefits, like no hangovers and no excess calories, but it’s more sinister than alcohol in some ways too. Daily smoking will become all day smoking. Just a hit before work. And the thing is, it’s a little easier to function on. I know people who are high all day at work. I used to smoke in the afternoons at my IT job with no decrease in performance. It actually made it more fun. At first it’s just in the evenings, but it slowly becomes a way to cope with stress all the time.
The only way out of this is complete sobriety. I know that’s probably frightening. It was for me, and maybe you don’t have to be completely sober forever, but there’s no way right now for you to control your substance intake in a healthy way and that’s just a fact. Your brain will tell you it can, but that’s because your brain really wants to continue consuming substances and will argue for solutions that include substances.
Nice throwback to the first time I got sober. I lasted another month after this before slowly picking up drinking again while out with friends. Then was off and on with both drinking and marijuana until three and a half weeks ago. I feel much more done this time though. I got some blood work done and I've actually done a number on my liver in just 30 short years. I recommend anyone reading this who has issue with alcohol to do the same. My uncle, who drank 5-8 Milwaukee's best a day for 30 years and never visited a doctor, is now struggling with cancer and may pass away sometime in the next few years. He's in his mid 60s. It's not worth it. Marijuana is a little healthier on the live but maybe worse for the soul. Spending an entire Saturday and Sunday high, anxious to go to grocery store, is no way to live. It's incredibly tough for the first two weeks. Borderline panic attacks every day, but it does get a lot better after that. Hang in there.
Hang in there man, the liver bounces back quickly...until it doesn't. That's the dangerous game of chicken with your health especially with alcohol. You don't really know you're Thelma and Louise going off the cliff until you're halfway to the ground.
Nice throwback to the first time I got sober. I lasted another month after this before slowly picking up drinking again while out with friends. Then was off and on with both drinking and marijuana until three and a half weeks ago. I feel much more done this time though. I got some blood work done and I've actually done a number on my liver in just 30 short years. I recommend anyone reading this who has issue with alcohol to do the same. My uncle, who drank 5-8 Milwaukee's best a day for 30 years and never visited a doctor, is now struggling with cancer and may pass away sometime in the next few years. He's in his mid 60s. It's not worth it. Marijuana is a little healthier on the live but maybe worse for the soul. Spending an entire Saturday and Sunday high, anxious to go to grocery store, is no way to live. It's incredibly tough for the first two weeks. Borderline panic attacks every day, but it does get a lot better after that. Hang in there.
Hang in there man, the liver bounces back quickly...until it doesn't. That's the dangerous game of chicken with your health especially with alcohol. You don't really know you're Thelma and Louise going off the cliff until you're halfway to the ground.
Thanks! I think I'm mostly good now. Ready to move on to the next phase of my life where I'm a boring adult and eventually a parent. I think I'll be challenged a little bit several months and years down the line, but I'm more prepared for it now and I think I can handle it this time. (by handle it I mean handle wanting to drink/smoke and saying no)
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Brother, I'm stoned for every single one of my tempo runs. Them $hits are boring and I hate it. A few puffs or a small edible right before and I'm ready chill out at threshold for a bit.
Are you guys serious? Idk how you're able to run like that.
I never work out with any THC in me, but a nice easy hour run? Nothing better.
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