So have they isolated “COVID” yet? How did the flu suddenly return out of nowhere? Gonna be a miserable flu season for the jabbed. Can’t wait to watch 🍿
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it's a non-issue guys nothing to look at here...
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Randy Republican wrote:
Pay no attention to the medical experts. Just tell your 5 year olds to eat raw meat, lift weights and masturbate less if they want to avoid illness.
that's how we did it in the 80s.
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My general policy is to vaccinate my kids with any vaccine that is recommended in the US and also in other English speaking countries, such as the UK, Canada, Ireland, etc. Currently that means I vaccinate my kids per the CDC schedule except for the Hep B shot at birth. The US is the only country that recommends this shot at birth, so we delay it, in line with other English-speaking countries.
(I look at other English speaking countries only because it's difficult to navigate websites in foreign languages.)
The Covid vax for children under 5 is recommended by the CDC. Canada says the vaccine "may be offered" to children under 5 who haven't had Covid in 6 months but does not actively recommend it, though some provinces recommend it anyway. (This is kind of like Oregon recommending a vaccine that the CDC says "may be offered.) No other English speaking countries offer the vaccine to healthy children under 5. Many recommend it to severely immunocompromised children.
I believe this will change. American kids are basically acting as guinea pigs. If all goes well, it'll become standard. If not, it won't. Personally, I won't be vaccinating my 2-year-old until the vaccine is widely recommended. Let someone else's kid be the guinea pig. We all had Covid this past summer, and it was extremely mild for my unvaccinated 2-year-old, as well as the rest of us, who are vaccinated, and boosted in the case of my husband and I.
We're also holding off on bivalent boosters for my husband and I as well as my two older children. Again, the US is one of the only countries recommending boosters to healthy people under 50, and especially to children under 12.
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For example, Ireland is only recommending second boosters to healthy people over 65, and people with a weak immune system. First boosters are only offered to people over 12, unlike here where they're pushing bivalent boosters for 5 to 11 year olds.
Vaccine recommendations are similar across Europe. The US is the outlier.
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vaxvax wrote:
My general policy is to vaccinate my kids with any vaccine that is recommended in the US and also in other English speaking countries, such as the UK, Canada, Ireland, etc. Currently that means I vaccinate my kids per the CDC schedule except for the Hep B shot at birth. The US is the only country that recommends this shot at birth, so we delay it, in line with other English-speaking countries.
(I look at other English speaking countries only because it's difficult to navigate websites in foreign languages.)
The Covid vax for children under 5 is recommended by the CDC. Canada says the vaccine "may be offered" to children under 5 who haven't had Covid in 6 months but does not actively recommend it, though some provinces recommend it anyway. (This is kind of like Oregon recommending a vaccine that the CDC says "may be offered.) No other English speaking countries offer the vaccine to healthy children under 5. Many recommend it to severely immunocompromised children.
I believe this will change. American kids are basically acting as guinea pigs. If all goes well, it'll become standard. If not, it won't. Personally, I won't be vaccinating my 2-year-old until the vaccine is widely recommended. Let someone else's kid be the guinea pig. We all had Covid this past summer, and it was extremely mild for my unvaccinated 2-year-old, as well as the rest of us, who are vaccinated, and boosted in the case of my husband and I.
We're also holding off on bivalent boosters for my husband and I as well as my two older children. Again, the US is one of the only countries recommending boosters to healthy people under 50, and especially to children under 12.
This seems like a very reasonable position. My husband and I are vaccinated and once-boosted, and we both got COVID this summer anyway. It was pretty much like any other flu--pretty sick for a few days but nothing unusual or alarming. We are not going to get another booster any time soon. I don't have kids, but if I did I don't think I'd get them vaccinated yet.
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god bless america 2020 wrote:
Before I opened this thread I knew there’d be a lot of right wing misinformation and conspiracy theories
but damn! You guys are so damn clueless and stupid. Your lies and misinformation are killing demcracy!
rojo and mods delete this thread immediately
Why aren't western & northern Europe with their often praised Socialized Medicine programs giving out baby - toddler vax? Why are they not "boosting" kids?
Why is baby - toddler vax rate 9% (nine) in the U.S., despite all the insipid lies & propaganda from NYT, NPR, CDC & others?
#BansOffOurBodies tho' right Mr. "Science"?
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god bless america 2020 wrote:
Before I opened this thread I knew there’d be a lot of right wing misinformation and conspiracy theories
but damn! You guys are so damn clueless and stupid. Your lies and misinformation are killing demcracy!
rojo and mods delete this thread immediately
What's really ironic, and I can say this as a non-American who has lived here a long time and has absolutely no indoctrinated political ideologies like 99% of Americans do, that the most misinformation, the most "fake news" and the most "conspiracy theories" actually comes from what society refers to as "the left". I'm 100% serious. I don't support guns, I support female rights and I think Trump was one of the least suitable people in this country to be it's president, but the majority of ideology pandering BS that pervades this society comes from the liberal/democratic voice.
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Salvitore Stitchmo wrote:
god bless america 2020 wrote:
Before I opened this thread I knew there’d be a lot of right wing misinformation and conspiracy theories
but damn! You guys are so damn clueless and stupid. Your lies and misinformation are killing demcracy!
rojo and mods delete this thread immediately
What's really ironic, and I can say this as a non-American who has lived here a long time and has absolutely no indoctrinated political ideologies like 99% of Americans do, that the most misinformation, the most "fake news" and the most "conspiracy theories" actually comes from what society refers to as "the left". I'm 100% serious. I don't support guns, I support female rights and I think Trump was one of the least suitable people in this country to be it's president, but the majority of ideology pandering BS that pervades this society comes from the liberal/democratic voice.
The self named left.
True lefties do not support endless wars, censorship, vaccine mandates. smearing anyone who does not agree with you.
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What's not hilarious but frightening is how this vocal minority of American propagandists ignore the fundamental fact that vaccines are the single greatest life- and money-saving invention that we have outside of garbage collection and water sanitizing procedures. The $20 the government pays for a COVID vaccine, for instance, 14.4 million deaths worldwide were averted by vaccination in the first year of vaccination, December 8, 2020 to December 8, 2021. Hospital treatment for COVID costs an average of $51k to $78k. In other words, the health care system would be far more profitable if no one was vaccinated.
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amkelley wrote:
vaxvax wrote:
My general policy is to vaccinate my kids with any vaccine that is recommended in the US and also in other English speaking countries, such as the UK, Canada, Ireland, etc. Currently that means I vaccinate my kids per the CDC schedule except for the Hep B shot at birth. The US is the only country that recommends this shot at birth, so we delay it, in line with other English-speaking countries.
(I look at other English speaking countries only because it's difficult to navigate websites in foreign languages.)
The Covid vax for children under 5 is recommended by the CDC. Canada says the vaccine "may be offered" to children under 5 who haven't had Covid in 6 months but does not actively recommend it, though some provinces recommend it anyway. (This is kind of like Oregon recommending a vaccine that the CDC says "may be offered.) No other English speaking countries offer the vaccine to healthy children under 5. Many recommend it to severely immunocompromised children.
I believe this will change. American kids are basically acting as guinea pigs. If all goes well, it'll become standard. If not, it won't. Personally, I won't be vaccinating my 2-year-old until the vaccine is widely recommended. Let someone else's kid be the guinea pig. We all had Covid this past summer, and it was extremely mild for my unvaccinated 2-year-old, as well as the rest of us, who are vaccinated, and boosted in the case of my husband and I.
We're also holding off on bivalent boosters for my husband and I as well as my two older children. Again, the US is one of the only countries recommending boosters to healthy people under 50, and especially to children under 12.
This seems like a very reasonable position. My husband and I are vaccinated and once-boosted, and we both got COVID this summer anyway. It was pretty much like any other flu--pretty sick for a few days but nothing unusual or alarming. We are not going to get another booster any time soon. I don't have kids, but if I did I don't think I'd get them vaccinated yet.
With omicron, you'd need the omicron-specific booster to have much protection against infection anyway. However, with either vaccine, your chances of hospitalization and/or death plummet.
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god bless america 2020 wrote:
Before I opened this thread I knew there’d be a lot of right wing misinformation and conspiracy theories
but damn! You guys are so damn clueless and stupid. Your lies and misinformation are killing demcracy!
rojo and mods delete this thread immediately
Just make sure to overreact and shut down schools and businesses again, because protecting old people is most important:
There was no measurable difference in excess mortality among those under 25 before, during or after the pandemic. COVID isn't much of a threat to those under 25.
The reality is COVID is circulating widely right now (PCR positivity rates in the UK are about 12% right now, during the peak of Omicron it was about 9%), and hardly anyone is dying from it (most people don't even realize they have it at this point. Most deaths attributed to it now are most likely people dying with COVID, not from COVID and it is just getting marked at COVID because they had a positive test within a month of their death). It is no longer a novel virus. Now that people have the t-cell immunity, it is behaving like most other coronaviruses our immune systems have been exposed to throughout human history. COVID has not and will not go away. The thing that has changed is our body's ability to fight it off (rendering it a mild infection).
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zxcvzxcv wrote:
amkelley wrote:
This seems like a very reasonable position. My husband and I are vaccinated and once-boosted, and we both got COVID this summer anyway. It was pretty much like any other flu--pretty sick for a few days but nothing unusual or alarming. We are not going to get another booster any time soon. I don't have kids, but if I did I don't think I'd get them vaccinated yet.
With omicron, you'd need the omicron-specific booster to have much protection against infection anyway. However, with either vaccine, your chances of hospitalization and/or death plummet.
That's my understanding based on the data I've seen. I think getting vaccinated was the right choice and may have made the difference between a not-too-bad flu and a more serious illness. However, I see no point in getting the Omicron-specific booster after having what was presumably the Omicron variant this summer. Maybe next year.
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I regret getting vaccinated, it took me almost a year to recover from. I’ve posted about it in other threads on letsrun but after getting the jab I could barely run, even barely exercise. I was a very healthy and in shape mid 20’s guy with no other prior health history - yet 2 weeks after the jab I would be doubled over out of breath after running 2 miles.
i will never allow my kids to get this bs shot. It’s disgusting the amount it is still trying to be pushed
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I haven't gotten any of the clot shots, haven't worn a mask, never go to doctors, never get checkups, haven't been sick for many many years, and never in my life have I ever been sick from a virus.
I don't watch the mainstream news, and always knew from the beginning that all the BS propaganda has been lies. The lies about older being being more susceptible to a "virus" whatever, are total nonsense as well.
I'm 76 and have continued to exercise for an hour or two every day plus doing all the regular things that I usually have done and continue to do.
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The premise of the thread is disinfo. - it's the states that determine the panel of required childhood vaccines, not CDC
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jc9091 wrote:
.....vaccines are not FDC approved.....
I am not familiar with the FDC. What is that?
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