The more interesting question is if Kipchoge is better at running marathons than anyone else alive is at doing... whatever they are best at. That is, who is the greatest of the GOATS, even when not just limiting to sports?
Greater of the GOATS: Kipchoge or Super Sydney McLaughlin?
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SureBet wrote:
The more interesting question is if Kipchoge is better at running marathons than anyone else alive is at doing... whatever they are best at. That is, who is the greatest of the GOATS, even when not just limiting to sports?
Puh-leeze. He’s barely faster than a way over the hill Bekele!
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VIPAM wrote:
Both are beyond their competition overall and can't be compared against each other...the only comparable fact is Sydney's 400H WR scored higher then ANY performance in track and field or road running history.
Scoring tables aren't as accurate as you think they are. They're based on historical data and in the case of the women's 400h it's an event that has been historically dominated by women who were too slow to make their countries 400 flat team.
Sydney just got the women's 400h world record to where it should be. It's not any greater than most of the other current world records.
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He has won 15 of the 17 marathons he entered, won back-to-back Olympic golds, is the current world record holder, and broke two hours in an exhibition. What current athlete is better at their sport?
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Blah blah blah. He dominates a bunch of people who are too old or too slow for track. Usain Bolt was more dominant in a much more competitive event.
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SureBet wrote:
He has won 15 of the 17 marathons he entered, won back-to-back Olympic golds, is the current world record holder, and broke two hours in an exhibition. What current athlete is better at their sport?
Magnus Carlsen (chess)
Wayne Gretzky (Hockey)
Usain Bolt (Sprinting)
Mondo Duplantis (Pole Vault)
Jahangir Khan (Squash)
Aleksandar Karelin (Wrestling)
Of the above Carlsen and Bolt are the most impressive since their sports aren't team-based and have much deeper elite fields than the rest (Kipchoge included).
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Is McLaughlin even the GOAT in the w400mh yet?
She has 1 Olympic gold, 1 World gold and 1 World silver. She has set 4 WRs
On the other hand, Muhammad has 1 Olympic gold and 1 Olympic silver, 1 World gold and 2 World silver. She has set 2 WR's
At present, Muhammad has the superior hardware, with McLaughlin the superior WR count. But I rank Muhammad currently as the best female 400m hurdler AT. McLaughlin can overtake her in the next couple of seasons, but she isn't there yet.
Note McLaughlin's medal tally is currently the same as Sally Gunnell's and Melaine Walkers.
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Cagnus Marlsen wrote:
SureBet wrote:
He has won 15 of the 17 marathons he entered, won back-to-back Olympic golds, is the current world record holder, and broke two hours in an exhibition. What current athlete is better at their sport?
Magnus Carlsen (chess)
Wayne Gretzky (Hockey)
Usain Bolt (Sprinting)
Mondo Duplantis (Pole Vault)
Jahangir Khan (Squash)
Aleksandar Karelin (Wrestling)
Of the above Carlsen and Bolt are the most impressive since their sports aren't team-based and have much deeper elite fields than the rest (Kipchoge included).
Chess isn't a sport. And most of those other guys are retired.
But Mondo is as dominant as Kipchoge. And no one in baseball has done what Ohtani is doing since Babe Ruth a hundred years ago.
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wiederganger wrote:
Is McLaughlin even the GOAT in the w400mh yet?
She has 1 Olympic gold, 1 World gold and 1 World silver. She has set 4 WRs
On the other hand, Muhammad has 1 Olympic gold and 1 Olympic silver, 1 World gold and 2 World silver. She has set 2 WR's
At present, Muhammad has the superior hardware, with McLaughlin the superior WR count. But I rank Muhammad currently as the best female 400m hurdler AT. McLaughlin can overtake her in the next couple of seasons, but she isn't there yet.
Note McLaughlin's medal tally is currently the same as Sally Gunnell's and Melaine Walkers.
LOL. McLaughlin has 7 of the 10 fastest times in history in that event! Already the GOAT!
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Its Common Cents wrote:
Cagnus Marlsen wrote:
Magnus Carlsen (chess)
Wayne Gretzky (Hockey)
Usain Bolt (Sprinting)
Mondo Duplantis (Pole Vault)
Jahangir Khan (Squash)
Aleksandar Karelin (Wrestling)
Of the above Carlsen and Bolt are the most impressive since their sports aren't team-based and have much deeper elite fields than the rest (Kipchoge included).
Chess isn't a sport. And most of those other guys are retired.
But Mondo is as dominant as Kipchoge. And no one in baseball has done what Ohtani is doing since Babe Ruth a hundred years ago.
Tom Brady! He has more Super Bowl wins than every single team in the NFL!!
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Singaporn wrote:
Discuss.
Well as someone said, the 400H is certainly not one yu pick due to its importance. But...that wasnt the question. I think its a toss up. Peole who have not run midsprints have no idea how dominating her performance has been. She has destroyed the record and is beyond a shadow of a doubt the GOAT in her event. And for the most part you could say the same as Kipchoge.
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Cagnus Marlsen wrote:
Wayne Gretzky (Hockey)
The chess master if you didn't talk about him very few would have recognized him
(that's another definition of GOAT)
In my time, we were hearing of Gasparov all the time.It isn't a sport that one would recommend for the good health and can lead to state close to psychoses.
As for hotkey, you forger that 75% of the planet don't leave in a snowy weather.
We suffer too much from an increasing hot climat in earth.
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So why there is very few people living in Sweden, Denmark, Norway and Finland?
The climat is too cold.
And soon you will be submerged under the effect of earth deglaciation.
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Of course it is Kipchoge! Sydney Goat status in the 400mh is still debatable. I give Dalilah the slight edge imo. Sydney needs to win one more global to surpass Dalilah.
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No it didn't, flojo's 10.49 is still ranked higher than sydney's WR
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