Title. See a lot of posts that claim a TUE in running invalidates any accomplishments by the individual but why don't people feel the same way about Messi in futbol/soccer? What if he was a runner with a world record and was taking growth hormone with an exemption, would he be considered a cheat?
You need to replace has with had. He HAD a TUE when he was developing for growth hormone when he was a child because he was diagnosed with Growth Hormone Deficiency two years before he signed with Barcelona. That is not something he HAS today, nor has he HAD it for 18 years.
You need to replace has with had. He HAD a TUE when he was developing for growth hormone when he was a child because he was diagnosed with Growth Hormone Deficiency two years before he signed with Barcelona. That is not something he HAS today, nor has he HAD it for 18 years.
I don't believe it's been confirmed that he stopped taking GH, although I will look into this. As far as I know growth hormone deficiency is a lifelong disorder. So, maybe he took growth hormone during the most crucial stage of development, puberty, and maybe he stopped as you say. I think we should assume he still has a TUE for growth hormone.
If he is still is taking growth hormone for his growth hormone deficiency what would be your thoughts on that?
Messi needed the GH medically. You don't get as quick and skilled as he is from GH. He is a god, period.
Messi's legs look very solid and I wonder if the GH had something to do with that. But it is hard to believe that GH, as you wrote, had much to do with his extraordinary skills.
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I'm not sure why I'm being downvoted, I'm just asking for opinions and stating things as they are-I didn't even say his accomplishments are invalidated due to taking GH in the past or even currently. "FC Barcelona and Messi's representatives did not respond to my request for comment on this issue and have made no public comments in years regarding Messi's medical treatments."
Also, even those with adult onset growth hormone deficiency, "We found a significantly increased mortality in GHD patients when compared with controls, possibly due to their hypopituitary status." You would think that he would rather live longer than not.
He was a child 2 years before signing with Barcelona? Please explain.
Doesn't this mean he was already playing at a high level? Wouldn't taking HGH at such a critical stage potentially cause a lifelong advantage?
Could the "diagnosis" be something like thyroid issues in pro runners, a side effect of overtraining?
Like most elite players, he was a professional as a child. He signed with Barcelona at the age of 13, partly because his Argentine team refused to keep paying for his treatments.
Yes, GH gave him a "lifelong advantage," in the sense that he would've been like 4'6 otherwise. This was not a sketchy diagnosis.
I don't know anything about Messi's situation but I am very familiar with growth hormone deficiency.
My son was diagnosed at 3 after testing for many things as he was not only very small, but he missed his milestones and was getting every therapy imaginable. At the age of 15, after a bone age scan in his wrist we stopped taking it.
The protocol is to stop for 3 months and take another stim test, similar to the one he took at 3, to determine if the patient is producing enough on his own for metabolic processes. Most patients produce enough on their own. Although the test seemed to go well with cortisol levels and insulin levels behaving normally it was determined that my son didn't produce any on his own and needed to go back on it for the rest of his life.
Instead of 1.8 every night he takes .8 three days a week. He'll have to inject this on his own and find a medical plan that covers it as he gets older.
We know a few other kids who are on it, they started at the age of 13 because they were short. One was always very short but was a great athlete (perhaps like Messi?) and the other just stopped growing and his younger brother got taller than him.
Without GH I don't know if my son would have reached 4'6" and if he doesn't continue it's likely that he'd develop obesity and other complications as growth hormone is responsible for more than height.
As far as it being a lifetime condition, it's different than type 1 diabetes that needs treatment, with growth hormone most kids stop shots during latter puberty.
You need to replace has with had. He HAD a TUE when he was developing for growth hormone when he was a child because he was diagnosed with Growth Hormone Deficiency two years before he signed with Barcelona. That is not something he HAS today, nor has he HAD it for 18 years.
I don't believe it's been confirmed that he stopped taking GH, although I will look into this. As far as I know growth hormone deficiency is a lifelong disorder. So, maybe he took growth hormone during the most crucial stage of development, puberty, and maybe he stopped as you say. I think we should assume he still has a TUE for growth hormone.
If he is still is taking growth hormone for his growth hormone deficiency what would be your thoughts on that?
As far as I know, he was diagnosed with GHD at the age of 11. He didn't sign with Barcelona until he was 13, and they helped pay for his therapy until he was 17 (those with GHD have a delayed puberty). You can watch video of him from when he was 8. It is amazing.
Rare footage of a 8/9 year old Lionel Messi playing a youth tournament with Newell's Old Boys. Look at his accelerations, look at his moves, look at his left...
You need to replace has with had. He HAD a TUE when he was developing for growth hormone when he was a child because he was diagnosed with Growth Hormone Deficiency two years before he signed with Barcelona. That is not something he HAS today, nor has he HAD it for 18 years.
I don't believe it's been confirmed that he stopped taking GH, although I will look into this. As far as I know growth hormone deficiency is a lifelong disorder. So, maybe he took growth hormone during the most crucial stage of development, puberty, and maybe he stopped as you say. I think we should assume he still has a TUE for growth hormone.
If he is still is taking growth hormone for his growth hormone deficiency what would be your thoughts on that?
If he g.has a medical condition that is what a TUE is for. The TUE doesn't give him an unfair advantage, it just brings him to normal. He is one of the smallest players in the world, at least at the elite level, so HGH didn't give him any unfair advantage.
Contrast that with the shady TUEs that are performance enhancing in cycling where people claim asthma at a very suspicious rate or a TUE for speed in running that even if it does treat something medical the benefits to the athlete are too great to allow.