UCLA goes home devastated. They hire the coach that made them stars and they didn’t even follow him there. From my experience at UCLA they would have only offered them half a scholarship at most. Maybe just books. That may be why.
Once again proving that relationship with high school track coaches is the most useless asset when deciding to make hires.
Dude couldn't even get kids from his own team to commit to his school. If anyone goes into an interview and their biggest asset is they know a lot of high school coaches it should automatically disqualify them.
High school kids aren't taking school choice advice from their coach
Former NAU teammates, Flagstaff roommates and best friends, the United States’ Abdihamid Nur and Guatemala’s Luis Grijalva will turn competitors Sunday in the men’s 5,000-meter final after top-five heat finishes in Thursday’s...
Can we stop with this? Of course going to Stanford and Ivies have huge advantages, mostly from connections and the community etc. but you still have to have the drive and work ethic to excel in whatever you want to do.
I went to a no-name D2 school and I make over $120k a year. Nothing to brag about but based on how people on here talk about non Ivy leagues schools I should be homeless or barely above the poverty line.
Actually they don't have huge advantages. Studies have shown that the students at any school who are at the same caliber as those at the ivies earn the same amount of money.
Smart choice this shows they are looking outside of the running box. The anticipated schools that the running community thought as possible selections for the Leo and Lex
NAU: Acceptance rate of 83% (Not a resume standout)
Colorado: Acceptance rate of 82% (Not a resume standout)
Virginia: Acceptance rate of 26% (High selective looks good on a resume)
UCLA: Acceptance rate of 12.3% (High selective looks good on a resume)
Stanford: Acceptance rate of 5% (six figure salary post running)
Running is not there future a solid career is and they are setting themselves up nicely. I remember being a high school athlete not at there level but had a few schools interested and money was not really an issue. My dad wanted me to get a good education. I had a D-3 school very interested Bowdoin College and I applied and the coach fought to get me in. The school currently has a 10% acceptance rate. its been around 20 years I have a solid educational background but regret not taking that opportunity when it was offered.
Smart choice this shows they are looking outside of the running box.
Stanford: Acceptance rate of 5% (six figure salary post running)
Running is not there future a solid career is and they are setting themselves up nicely.
I've talked to both of them several times and I get the feeling that they might not go pro. They really do have a lot of other interests outside of running.
There have been two things said in this thread that stand out:
- Stanford has a long history of high profile, heavily hyped recruiting, and spectacularly under delivering. This is fact. Not biased. Not opinion.
- A Stanford education and degree won't be worth any more than most other schools after an athlete spends several years as a pro runner before he enters the job/career market. This is complete BS. Not even remotely connected to reality.
There have been two things said in this thread that stand out:
- Stanford has a long history of high profile, heavily hyped recruiting, and spectacularly under delivering. This is fact. Not biased. Not opinion.
- A Stanford education and degree won't be worth any more than most other schools after an athlete spends several years as a pro runner before he enters the job/career market. This is complete BS. Not even remotely connected to reality.
Spending several years removed from one's degree won't land the pro athlete in a prime job once their career is completed.There are European programmes in place to ensure that athletes can marry their studies to their careers without missing many steps in between. I don't see the Americans involved in similar programmes.
Smart choice this shows they are looking outside of the running box. The anticipated schools that the running community thought as possible selections for the Leo and Lex
NAU: Acceptance rate of 83% (Not a resume standout)
Colorado: Acceptance rate of 82% (Not a resume standout)
Virginia: Acceptance rate of 26% (High selective looks good on a resume)
UCLA: Acceptance rate of 12.3% (High selective looks good on a resume)
Stanford: Acceptance rate of 5% (six figure salary post running)
Running is not there future a solid career is and they are setting themselves up nicely. I remember being a high school athlete not at there level but had a few schools interested and money was not really an issue. My dad wanted me to get a good education. I had a D-3 school very interested Bowdoin College and I applied and the coach fought to get me in. The school currently has a 10% acceptance rate. its been around 20 years I have a solid educational background but regret not taking that opportunity when it was offered.
I find it annoying when there are dislikes on a post that has to do with running not being everything. Wake up people it is not everything. There are plenty of great athletes who toss the shoes to the side and focus on a real career. I remember when Daniel Lincoln hung up the spikes to focus on med school and the number of letsrun posters that said what a waste of talent. My thoughts are what a great level of work ethic that is moving on to do something better! Let running be a foundation that teaches you worth ethic and drive dont let it be something that is the only great accomplishment you ever did. Leo and Lex good luck both of you have the ability to succeed in whatever you do!
they're probably not good academically though. if you have a 2.5 GPA in "exercise studies", even from Stanford, no FAANG or more prestigious firm will hire you.
you can get a $150-180k job out of college (relatively) easily if you're intelligent and work hard from any college, but you're not making >$300k if you don't go to a T10*. Also, the most prestigious companies only hire from (I'm not even exaggerating) 5 or so schools, with some only really hiring from 3.
You need to go to basically only Harvard/Stanford/Wharton to have a non-0.0001% chance at a company like Silver Lake (PE), or H/P/M for Five Rings (Quant). Yes, there are people who don't go to those three schools, but they'll either be well qualified but not as (insanely) qualified than other applicants but with demographic factors that boost them - the most common tend to be African (in particular, Nigerian and Ghanian-American) women from wealthy backgrounds - or people who go to basically equivalent but slightly less well-known colleges (whichever of HYPSM I didn't include above, as well as Columbia, Duke, and Chicago). You have no shot otherwise.
* T10: HYPSM + Columbia, Chicago, Duke, Cal Tech, Wharton; CMU and Berkeley honors (typically Regents students) are included for CS
Hicks, Sprout, Robinson, Young (2x). Not sure how anyone is beating that.
I have an answer to that, which I'm posting here after they blocked posts on the original thread. Going by the eligibility listed on Stanford's track roster and NAU's xc roster, the Youngs won't be running with Hicks, who is listed as a senior, or with Beaudoin-Rousseau (5th year), Devin Hart, or Liam Anderson, all seniors. Next year, Stanford apparently will have Robinson and Sprout still to go with the Youngs, all probably 13:10s-13:20s guys. They'll need a fifth guy and they have 8:40s hs guys who will be very good in time.
Even if they had all five of those guys, the Youngs, plus Sprout, Robinson, and Hicks, they'd probably still lose when you look at what NAU already has, 13:06, 13:09, 13:22, 13:28, 13:34, 13:41, 13:42, plus Colin Sahlman, the national hs xc champ, and all of those guys are proven in xc. When Nur goes pro, that'll make it a contest.
I believe a bunch of NAU's guys after Nico, Colin, and Drew like Rafe Raff and Theo Quax have all graduated or were running low on eligibility.
As has been correctly established Nur went pro and Sprout, Hicks, and Robinson have all been incredibly consistent. They've been all-american in every one of the four NCAA championship track races this season. Ky was 2nd, Cole was 5th in the indoor 5K, I believe Charles Hicks was 3rd and Cole was 8th in the indoor 3K, in the outdoor 10K, Cole was 4th and Charlie was 6th, in the outdoor 5K Ky was 4th. It is near impossible to top that level of consistency. So, I would put Cole, Ky, and Charles ahead of Nico, Colin (freshman rarely get higher than 15th), and Drew.
George Kuesche might have an advantage in the #4 slot, but I have a feeling Stanford might be able to close those gaps in 4 and 5 better than NAU which has always struggled with depth. In the past, NAU has had 4 or 5 low sticks, left to 2 low sticks and a national champion freshman, there's a difference.
So I'm predicting Stanford 1st, NAU 2nd next year (then probably Oklahoma State and Washington)