Proof that facemasks make no difference

I wouldn’t say NO difference but the difference they make is VERY small. Like throwing a pebble in the ocean and expecting it to become land. Masks are for the weak to have another safe zone feeling.

yep. the people who want to wear them should. leave the rest of us alone.

Other studies in the U.S. and Spain and elsewhere have shown that among schoolchildren in different mandated v. voluntary masking situations there is no statistical difference. This evidence has been around since the beginning, but the impulse to control behavior and virtue signal has prevailed over the actual evidence.

Follow the (Political) Science.

This is a great post but it's also hilarious how many anti maskers get their panties in a twist over those that still wear masks. People don't have anything better to do?

At least you admit that this is a great post and assuming that you agree that masks make very minimal difference.

However, if you follow this forum, or live in liberal cities, your thinking is not the norm at all. In liberal cities like Seattle, there’s still stigma if you don’t wear a mask. It’s not at all of, “let people choose what they want.”

Some kids are trying to start a walk out to protest to bring back mask mandate. If you go to grocery stores, everybody is still wearing masks. So, I appreciate you have the thinking of let people do what they choose. (That’s actually been the motto of anti-maskers from the beginning). However, with mask mandates, anti-maskers had no choice to wear masks so there was no choice to do whatever they want even do there’s clear data that masks had very minimal effectiveness, or none at all.

I was in Vegas recently and about 99% of the people i seen were not wearing masks. I checked out that Metallica concert at Allegiant Stadium and about 10 people were wearing masks out of over 10000. Anyways i did not get Covid despite all of that.

Congrats dude, you learned what a mandate is.

If there is one thing we should've learned in this pandemic, its that Covid rates are influenced by many factors but no, the dummies keep trotting out threads like this.

they use the same mask/cloth every day, they wipe their faces or handle their masks then touch the door knobs or tables or whatever. C is gonna do what a virus do, spread. It's idiocracy. Any rationale human who stops and thinks will realize it. It is an interesting experiment to see how easy it is to herd people into an absurd way of thinking, what's next?

Haha. People are really dumb and just hear what they want to hear.

Congrats Bro! You’re the idiot of the day!

What’s next? Hmmm. I’m sure they’ll say another variant is more deadly and spreading rapidly and the next booster is needed. Again. This was all planned back in the 90s. Thank your boy Gill Bates and that rat 🐀 Fauci .

Just take the L

What other factors are those?

Population density? (England's is much higher than Scotlands)
Other restrictions? (Scotland had stricter restrictions during the first time England removed their mask mandate and still had higher covid rates).

Do you know anything about the UK? These two countries are very similar, so there aren't many factors to consider other than if facemasks actually work or not.

Pro-maskers really hate the facts huh.

Do you know anything about anything?
Obesity is higher in Scotland for one. Smoking rates are higher in Scotland.

Only a simpleton makes logical mistakes like you make. Maybe you are trying out a term paper for high school but go back to the drawing board , kid. You WILL get an F.

Just ask yourself if the following reasoning is valid:

X has a mask mandate. Y doesn't. X has higher COVID than Y. Therefore, masks don't do anything.

Is it possible that the mask mandate in X was retained, because X had higher COVID rates? What were the COVID rates before mask mandates ended? How have they changed? How has mask use changed, if at all? Were the mask mandates enforced? Are there weather conditions that might account for the differences?

The reality is that numerous mask studies have shown masks to be very effective if used properly, and mask mandates to vary in effectiveness with compliance and proper use. I used a mask throughout COVID and avoided it either completely or was asymptomatic after my family got omicron and gave it to me at home where we weren't wearing masks.

At this point I'd agree but regarding children mentioned above

washingtonpost.com

Mask requirements in schools reduced coronavirus cases, CDC finds

As states and school systems around the country are dropping their mask mandates, public health officials have concluded that masks helped reduce covid transmission in schools.

Link:www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/...

and...

arstechnica.com

As Florida punishes schools, study finds masks cut school COVID outbreaks 3.5X

@BethMarieMole

Universal masking prevents some school outbreaks and lowers case rates.

Link:arstechnica.com/science/2021/09/as-flo...

Well of course - and the simple reality is that now we have a nice an large sample size to work with (vs say one week where it is simple to validate any narrative you want to pedal) we can see that even within the US the states that the "science-following" "higher educated" "public health" experts pointed fingers at for social and public safety negligence really came out no worse than their own AND vice versa.

This isn't surprising given the rampant and comical levels of hypocrisy with masks. The same self-righteous twits that would eye you and up and down with disgust (and occasionally verbally abuse you) for walking your dog out in an open park without a mask were the same ones more than happy to bend rules with respect to social contact in places like restaurants, coffee shops and family gatherings. The internal balance of compromise and liberty always finds balance - "well I make this compromise here so it means I can take this liberty there" is just basic human pysche.

Never was the mask more ridiculous than in restaurants or cafes. Such vigilance wearing the mask for those 20 feet to your table and then not the same vigilance while you splay spit particles into the air for the next 40 minutes next to a table of complete strangers under the safety of "actively eating and drinking".

And honestly when you go even bigger picture with respect to vaccines the "data" and "facts" appear cut and dried except it isn't really given the convoluted mess of serious pre-existing health condition, general health condition (obesity, smoking vs non etc), basic lifestyle and even with how hospitals reported numbers (some hospitals famously deciding to keep even recovered patients as part of active case numbers), with respect to coming to a definitive conclusion on the effectiveness of any measure we as a society took.

Reality is nobody really knew or does know if anything we did really mattered or certainly to what degree. Can't wait for all the thumbs down.