GRANT MF FISHER 26:33!!!

A guy who can’t even beat Morgan McDonald is suddenly the 7th fastest all time in the 10k. Sureeeee

I know this was a joke but Grant's 26:33 is a second faster than if your put Hunter's 5,000m PR 13:17 back to back. I'm hoping with some solid healthy seasons Drew can get those times down. Right now I can't wait to see Grant at World Outdoors.

I know this was a joke but Grant's 26:33 is a second faster than if your put Hunter's 5,000m PR 13:17 back to back. I'm hoping with some solid healthy seasons Drew can get those times down. Right now I can't wait to see Grant at World Outdoors.

Somebody correct me if necessary, but I don't think we have had a 1-2 punch on the 5K/10K ARs (Grant-ed one is "indoors") ever in U.S. running history like this. Pre had the two a few years apart. Bob Kennedy couldn't do it. This really stamps Grant as one of the GOAT American pure distance runners.

When you say something like this do you expect people to believe you and if so why? I'm not saying Fisher is dirty. Nor would I say he's clean. Either is possible and almost no one is in a position to know. Your second sentence is bang on the mark but it doesn't tell you what any particular employee is or isn't doing.

To say that training has improved since Bekele´s prime is just silly, and like someone else said: previous improvements in shoe technology hasn´t created dramatic improvements in the results.

That’s an offal joke. Ofa Lon teh, 👨.

Tainted. How soon we forget the burrito.

Well, some people do. I don't. Grant is part of a doping group. BTC is dirty, and this record is tainted.

Grant sure did run a fantastic race.

Read the T&F news article - that might give you insight from Grant on the subject.

Why should he have to answer any questions about other people? Grant is very transparent about himself. He is the nicest guy, humble, articulate, and he has a great head on his shoulders. He is not the kind of person to get drawn into a slanderous situation but he is the type of person to give heaps of praise to those he appreciates.

If you were in his shoes, would you like to field negative questions about situations out of your control, other people, and negativity? If that were to happen, you would probably get tired of it and never want to speak to that person/reporter/writer again. If someone posted a question the way you suggest and essentially why we should believe you - what would be your reaction? Those would be fighting words to me.

Enjoy Grant for who he is, what he just accomplished, and look forward to his entertaining you with his athletic achievements. Listen to his interviews, his half step podcast, read articles about him and enjoy his being a roll model for our sport. A guy like him doesn’t come around often and our sport needs more like him.

They ran 64's the whole way with a couple 63s after 5k. Then the last 1600: 63.67, 62.72, 62.56, and 58.00 in a close finish after he was gapped (indicating he was at his limit). That's about as natural finish as it gets. We've all seen 10ks close in 52.

The fact the he doesn't positive split and flail around with sloppy form like a High School freshman isn't evidence of doping.

Dopers are a dime a dozen, and Grant absolutely has control over not associating with a group of dopers. Unless, and play along here, there's something that makes him stick around...something that allows him to run very fast.

GOAT and woke are the most overused words these days.

You know you're getting good when many in the Letsrun community turn on you and say you're doping.

I've been a huge Grant Fisher fan since his junior year of HS, and predicted he would break 13 back then.

He's been consistently winning races for 9 years. In college, he consistently beat everyone not-named-Morgan-McDonald. His progression has been the most even and steady of any runner over the past 9 years, and it is due to excellent coaching and not over-training early on.

Remember, this guy ran 4:02 his junior year off 40mpw and soccer training. In college, his 5k PR stayed constant but he clearly was getting better and was close to winning NCAA XCs both his junior and senior year.

He's really the first young American prodigy since Galen Rupp to actually reach world-beating level. And we've had quite a few prodigies over the years.

I love seeing many of the token Oregon/Rupp d!ck riders so salty!

Actually, no, not for me. I know a former American record holder who was accused of peds on letsrun when she set her first American record years ago.

It bothered her because she was clean.

I'm just saying that we have to/should give the benefit of the doubt to athletes until/when they test positive.

How has training not improved since Bekele's era? How has technology not become more available to facilitate adequate training? Either troll or room temp IQ.

That something is not what you insinuate A-hole.

That something is everything about talent, consistency, self awareness, enjoying what he is doing, surrounding himself with great people, having a world class coach, having world class training partners, having the resources to do multiple altitude camps, being a positive person, having the staying power and mental toughness to push himself through pain, grinding it out daily, sacrificing a lot.

The list goes on and will never be understood or realized by the few under achiever negative posters on this board.

Training and coaching has improved since Bekele’s era.

Now any dick slap with an internet connection can learn how distance runners should train. Before you were limited to coaching text books and knowledgeable coaches if you wanted to get good. Now you can google training, you can find 20 years worth of training discussion on the message board here.