Why don’t blue states just create and enforce their own vaccine mandate?

msoft wrote:

Let me guess: energeticlotuseater is Hardloper.

BTW: Lotus eaters are dope heads. They are constantly high eating lotus fruits and flowers which are a narcotic to retain their high.

energeticlotuseater wrote:

Ok so why haven’t any states...

You're high. Give it up.

msoft wrote:

energeticlotuseater wrote:

As I stated above it appears Microsoft chose as a company to mandate vaccines. It was not a state mandate.

You are an idiot. Hardloper said "Not PRIVATE SECTOR." You made turn it into STATE MANDATE.

There's no state mandate for private sector employees, like the one Biden failed to enact. That's what energeticlotuseater's thread is about. (There's no vaccine mandate affecting me, btw.)

Hardloper wrote:

There's no state mandate for private sector employees, like the one Biden failed to enact.

Hardloper wrote: NOT FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR

msoft wrote:

Hardloper wrote:

There's no state mandate for private sector employees, like the one Biden failed to enact.

Hardloper wrote: NOT FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR

Q: Why did you get jabbed?

I’ve always wondered this as well.

The cynic in me thinks that the state governments who enact this type of mandate might think their businesses, or the ability to attract new businesses, would be at a disadvantage compared to those states without vaccine mandates. If it’s a nation wide mandate however that disadvantage goes away because every state is required to enforce same vaccine or testing requirements.

I mean, that’s how it should be. States decide. Not the federal government. Even better is at the county or city level. Take CA. LA has an extremely strict vaccination and mask policy. Go a few miles south to Orange County and stores don’t care if you don’t wear a mask and there is no vaccine mandate. Even my daughter’s school doesn’t have a vaccine mandate. Some employees don’t even wear a mask. The point is local governments should be deciding what’s best for their local citizens based on the data in that city. Not the federal government that has no idea what’s going on.

Anyways, you’re right though. Blue states can make their own vaccine mandates. The issue is the vaccine doesn’t really matter at this point. The vaccinated and unvaccinated get covid and die at the same rate. So mandates are pointless.

There really are not blue states or red states. What is considered a red state might be a GOP gov or even lawmakers that won election with say 24% of the populations vote vs 21% to the loser. The opposite is true with blue states. That means the vast majority is not one or the other.

This idea that blue state people can't travel to red states etc, etc etc is plain dumb. This thread is a continuation of such idiocy.

Trump did quite a number on the idea and concept of "United" states of America with his blue state vs red state way of governing.

msoft wrote:

energeticlotuseater wrote:

Does this mandate apply to all “large” (over 100 employees) private employers like the nationwide mandate tried to do? I know California and a few other states mandates healthcare workers vaccinated but didn’t think it applied to private employers.

Ever heard of seatbelts? Every single car, like it or not. You need to rally the orange troops to ban all Federal and all State mandates; at least those you do not like. But those mandates you love to death, like Texas forced birth, you gleefully impose on everyone woman who makes an oops and get pregnant ... her body, your choice.

Sounds more like freedom for the individual to be born and pursue a life. That baby has a body and should have a choice to live.

Mickk Jogger wrote:

There really are not blue states or red states. What is considered a red state might be a GOP gov or even lawmakers that won election with say 24% of the populations vote vs 21% to the loser. The opposite is true with blue states. That means the vast majority is not one or the other.

This idea that blue state people can't travel to red states etc, etc etc is plain dumb. This thread is a continuation of such idiocy.

Trump did quite a number on the idea and concept of "United" states of America with his blue state vs red state way of governing.

“No red or blue states”

There seems to be a lot of purposeful avoidance of the actual question.

Ok why hasn’t any state enacted a Biden style vaccine mandate? This kind of mandate was apparently popular in many parts of the country. Certainly, the states where these parts are located wouldn’t have a hard time enacting a wide range Biden style mandate.

Sadness wrote:

Sounds more like freedom for the individual to be born and pursue a life. That baby has a body and should have a choice to live.

^ Right Winger Forced Birth.

energeticlotuseater wrote:

It still appears no blue state has tried a “Biden style” vaccine mandate. Why?

Oregon has adopted the exact OSHA policy that the feds tried to implement. It's a state regulation and can't be challenged.

energeticlotuseater wrote:

“No red or blue states”

There seems to be a lot of purposeful avoidance of the actual question.

Sure seems that Hardloper is posting as energeticlotuseater.

Glaurung wrote:

energeticlotuseater wrote:

It still appears no blue state has tried a “Biden style” vaccine mandate. Why?

Oregon has adopted the exact OSHA policy that the feds tried to implement. It's a state regulation and can't be challenged.

https://www.natlawreview.com/article/oregon-osha-announces-schedule-implementing-covid-19-vaccine-or-test-standard

See.

This is an actual response to my question.

It looks like Oregon will be trying and planning to enact a Biden style mandate.

msoft wrote:

energeticlotuseater wrote:

“No red or blue states”

There seems to be a lot of purposeful avoidance of the actual question.

Sure seems that Hardloper is posting as energeticlotuseater.

Hardlooper and I are nothing alike.

energeticlotuseater wrote:

Hardlooper and I are nothing alike.

The intentional misspelling gives you away, Hardlooper.

energeticlotuseater wrote:

It looks like Oregon will be trying and planning to enact a Biden style mandate.

How many states are trying to enact Texas style forced birth laws, Hardlooper?

energeticlotuseater wrote:

msoft wrote:

Ever heard of seatbelts? Every single car, like it or not. You need to rally the orange troops to ban all Federal and all State mandates; at least those you do not like. But those mandates you love to death, like Texas forced birth, you gleefully impose on everyone woman who makes an oops and get pregnant ... her body, your choice.

Ok…

So why haven’t more blue states tried to enact a “Biden style” vaccine mandate on all “large” (over 100 employees) private employers?

Because it would be struck down in court, just like the Biden mandate. It's one thing for a private company to make rules for emplyees for what they consider to be in the best interests for their business. It's a different matter for a state government to tell companies how to run their business.

It's not about the vaccine mandate, it's about the power, the control. The left is authoritarian and they want top down control. Theyre not interested in local governments inplementing their preffered policies, they want to have the power to enforce them from the very top down.