Flagpole wrote:
I DO call them an idiot for refusing to get the vaccine, because even IF their fears about the vaccine were valid (they aren't) the risk of long-term negative effects is greater, than they falsely believe there might be from the vaccine, if you get COVID unvaccinated, AND there's the real possibility of death if you remain unvaccinated.
The constant drumbeat of how safe these vaccines are, both in the short term and long term, is disingenuous and leads to hesitancy. The truth of the matter is that we don't know if they're safe in the long term. Here's but one example of many coming out of Europe (none that I can find coming out of the US - which unsurprisingly, has one of the highest levels of vaccine hesitancy in the World):
Covid-19: Norway investigates 23 deaths in frail elderly patients after vaccination
BMJ 2021; 372 doi:
https://doi.org/10.1136/bmj.n149(Published 15 January 2021)
Cite this as: BMJ 2021;372:n149
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Gut Microbiome and Covid-19 mRNA Vaccine
Dear Editor
mRNA vaccine against Covid-19 has been designed to trigger an immune response to one of the surface spike proteins of the virus that enables its entry into human cells. The vaccine induces local inflammatory reactions. Recently, in Norway, 23 fragile vaccinated elders died due to common adverse reactions such as, fever, nausea and diarrhea.
Since human mucosal tissues of the gut are involved in immune response to Covid virus, adverse reactions could be due to dysbiosis of the gut commensals that change with age and personalized nutrition.
The gut microbe composition of individuals with a high intake of protein and animal fat, like the western diet, is generally dominated by a Bacteroides driven enterotype, which is the largest phylum of the gut microbiome community. Some genera of Bacteroidetes stimulate macrophages and monocytes to secrete a complex array of pro-inflammatory cytokines such as IFNγ and TNFα, neurotoxins including surface lipopolysaccharides and toxic proteolytic peptides in the plasma. Secretion of these cytokines and toxins result in aberrant immune responses, involving elevated levels of circulating cytokines and immune-cell hyperactivation, thus contributing to abnormal inflammatory reactions due to cytokine storms.
Therefore, during vaccination, rectifying gut microbiome dysbiosis with prebiotic and probiotic oral supplementation might be a solution for the management of Covid-19 vaccine induced adverse reactions.
A better argument would be to state clearly, "Like with all vaccines, and based on information we have today, we believe that these Covid vaccines provide orders of magnitude better protection than the known/unknown adverse side effects of the vaccine. If you are in a high risk demographic and or just choose to remain unvaccinated, please avoid social interactions and take the following precautions listed below..." Full disclosure and consistent updates on observable science. Heavy government leadership pertaining only to at risk populations.
To support 414227's messaging premise, the childhood vaccination rate in the US was 90%. So our starting point for the vaccine hesitant was around 10% nationwide. Now that number has grown to over 50%? That's a piss poor messaging job. You goons have converted another 38% plus folks into vaccine hesitant camp. "Oh no, it's not us it's you..." Ok, whatever.