Sadly, all sorts of comedians and charlatans were able to take advantage of the uncertainty surrounding public messaging during a public health emergency , and conspiracy theories come about when paranoia sets in due to this fear and uncertainty
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U lose__ wrote:
Sadly, all sorts of comedians and charlatans were able to take advantage of the uncertainty surrounding public messaging during a public health emergency , and conspiracy theories come about when paranoia sets in due to this fear and uncertainty
"uncertainty surrounding public messaging"
Do you mean Fauci using opinion polls to determine a threshhold for herd immunity ?
"When polls said only about half of all Americans would take a vaccine, I was saying herd immunity would take 70 to 75 percent ... Then, when newer surveys said 60 percent or more would take it, I thought, "I can nudge this up a bit," so I went to 80, 85. We need to have some humility here .... We really don’t know what the real number is. I think the real range is somewhere between 70 to 90 percent. But, I'm not going to say 90 percent."
Anthony Fauci, December 2020
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U lose__ wrote:
Many uneducated Americans do “quietly distrust” as they think that because they got the vaccine and vaccinated people still got infected with a mild Covid that the vaccines must not work and that therefore the experts do not know what they are talking about. It is understandable why they would think that, but that is due to errors in public messaging and not because the vaccines are/were not helpful in preventing severe illness and death.
False. The Covid infection fatality rate had already declined significantly by the time the "vaccines" became available. It is a myth that the mRNA goop had any effect on severe illness and death caused by Covid.
Your lies are catching up with you and your ilk.
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Newname wrote:
U lose__ wrote:
There is no point made there- it is just a public messaging timeline and interpretation from the loons of it being: “I can’t trust public health authorities because I’m paranoid. because the messaging to the public changed over time, the experts therefore must not know what they are talking about.” They didn’t get the inside scoop.
As they should have been (for the doctors promoting those treatments). Good thing for state licensing boards hahahahahhaha. Promoting horse dewormer is harmful. There are a few crazy doctors out there. Fortunately not very many and they find themselves very much in the minority.
Wow.
Someone still falling for the horse dewormer lie!
KFOR, an Oklahoma news channel, reported last week that rural hospitals throughout the state were in danger of becoming overwhelmed by victims of a very specific poisoning: overdoses of ivermectin, an anti-parasite drug promoted by vaccine skeptics as a possible treatment for COVID-19.
The story went viral, and was seized upon by the mainstream media. But its central claim is substantially untrue.
The meat of the story is a series of quotes from an Oklahoma doctor, Jason McElyea, who appears to attribute overcrowding at local hospitals to a deluge of ivermectin overdoses.
"The ERs are so backed up that gunshot victims were having hard times getting to facilities where they can get definitive care and be treated," McElyea told KFOR's Katelyn Ogle.
The story ran under the headline: "Patients overdosing on ivermectin backing up rural Oklahoma hospitals, ambulances." It was quickly picked up by national news outlets, such as Rolling Stone, Newsweek, and the New York Daily News. Numerous high-profile media figures, including MSNBC's Rachel Maddow, tweeted about ivermectin overdoses straining Oklahoma hospitals—the implication being that the right-wing embrace of a crank COVID-19 cure was dangerous not only for the people who consumed it but for the stability of the entire medical system.
It was a story that appeared to confirm many of the mainstream media's biases about the recklessness of the rubes. But it's extremely misleading. There is, in fact, little reason to believe a purported strain on Oklahoma hospitals is caused by ivermectin overdoses; one hospital served by the doctor quoted in the KFOR article released a statement saying it has not treated any ivermectin overdoses, nor has it been forced to turn away patients.
This is yet another example of the mainstream media lazily circulating a narrative that flatters the worldview of the liberal audience, without bothering to check on any of the details. Additional reporting was sorely needed here, and has now completely undermined the central point of the story.
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DanM wrote:
U lose__ wrote:
Sadly, all sorts of comedians and charlatans were able to take advantage of the uncertainty surrounding public messaging during a public health emergency , and conspiracy theories come about when paranoia sets in due to this fear and uncertainty
"uncertainty surrounding public messaging"
Do you mean Fauci using opinion polls to determine a threshhold for herd immunity ?
"When polls said only about half of all Americans would take a vaccine, I was saying herd immunity would take 70 to 75 percent ... Then, when newer surveys said 60 percent or more would take it, I thought, "I can nudge this up a bit," so I went to 80, 85. We need to have some humility here .... We really don’t know what the real number is. I think the real range is somewhere between 70 to 90 percent. But, I'm not going to say 90 percent."
Anthony Fauci, December 2020
Lol. What an unscientific hack. Fauci… liar, killer, and unscientific hack.
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U lose__ wrote:
Sadly, all sorts of comedians and charlatans were able to take advantage of the uncertainty surrounding public messaging during a public health emergency , and conspiracy theories come about when paranoia sets in due to this fear and uncertainty
Thank you, Einstein. Did you deduce that all by yourself?
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Fall out wrote:
DanM wrote:
"uncertainty surrounding public messaging"
Do you mean Fauci using opinion polls to determine a threshhold for herd immunity ?
"When polls said only about half of all Americans would take a vaccine, I was saying herd immunity would take 70 to 75 percent ... Then, when newer surveys said 60 percent or more would take it, I thought, "I can nudge this up a bit," so I went to 80, 85. We need to have some humility here .... We really don’t know what the real number is. I think the real range is somewhere between 70 to 90 percent. But, I'm not going to say 90 percent."
Anthony Fauci, December 2020
Lol. What an unscientific hack. Fauci… liar, killer, and unscientific hack.
Lol DanM loves this quote but makes Fauci look too clever for his own good. Vaccination was a political game and he played it.
300k Americans decided dying was better than following mainstream medicine.
Folks like DanM gleefully celebrate their deaths as well as speak fondly of their own efforts efforts to ensure as many of his countrymen died!25 -
Fall out wrote:
U lose__ wrote:
Sadly, all sorts of comedians and charlatans were able to take advantage of the uncertainty surrounding public messaging during a public health emergency , and conspiracy theories come about when paranoia sets in due to this fear and uncertainty
Thank you, Einstein. Did you deduce that all by yourself?
You sound mad? Still waiting for Steve Kirsch’s assertions that millions would be dead from the vaccine by now 🤣😂🤣😂?
just wait two weeks!!
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2600 bro wrote:
Fall out wrote:
Lol. What an unscientific hack. Fauci… liar, killer, and unscientific hack.
Lol DanM loves this quote but makes Fauci look too clever for his own good. Vaccination was a political game and he played it.
300k Americans decided dying was better than following mainstream medicine.
Folks like DanM gleefully celebrate their deaths as well as speak fondly of their own efforts efforts to ensure as many of his countrymen died!If we’re making stuff up why stop at such a nonspecific number like 300k? I’m sure you can imagine better.
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2600 bro wrote:
Fall out wrote:
Thank you, Einstein. Did you deduce that all by yourself?
You sound mad? Still waiting for Steve Kirsch’s assertions that millions would be dead from the vaccine by now 🤣😂🤣😂?
just wait two weeks!!
I’m not up on all these people you talk about. I just know that Fauci’s a liar and a killer. He has single handedly done more damage to the practice of medicine than any living human.
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Fauci is widely considered to be in like the top 5 experts in infectious disease worldwide. It’s hilarious he became a target due to the massive amounts of misinformation, but during a public health emergency all sorts of weirdos post stuff online and so we are where we are. Funny but true
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2600 bro wrote:
Lol DanM loves this quote but makes Fauci look too clever for his own good. Vaccination was a political game and he played it.
300k Americans decided dying was better than following mainstream medicine.
Folks like DanM gleefully celebrate their deaths as well as speak fondly of their own efforts efforts to ensure as many of his countrymen died!300k? LOL
That number was pulled out of Harambe's ass right next to a duct taped gerbil.
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Coins n Mayhem Shtbagger wrote:
Fauci is widely considered to be in like the top 5 experts in infectious disease worldwide. It’s hilarious he became a target due to the massive amounts of misinformation, but during a public health emergency all sorts of weirdos post stuff online and so we are where we are. Funny but true
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I ask MDs I know, both Republican and democrat, why so many in the public target Fauci and and they just laugh
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Coins n Mayhem Shtbagger wrote:
I ask MDs I know, both Republican and democrat, why so many in the public target Fauci and and they just laugh
You ask MDs about their political affiliation ?
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Coins n Mayhem Shtbagger wrote:
Fauci is widely considered to be in like the top 5 experts in infectious disease worldwide. It’s hilarious he became a target due to the massive amounts of misinformation, but during a public health emergency all sorts of weirdos post stuff online and so we are where we are. Funny but true
In addition to being a liar, a killer, and an unscientific hack, he also loves irony.
“Attacks on me, quite frankly, are attacks on science.” … spoken like he doesn’t understand what science is. 😂 Lucky for him, his religious followers definitely don’t.
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DanM wrote:
Coins n Mayhem Shtbagger wrote:
I ask MDs I know, both Republican and democrat, why so many in the public target Fauci and and they just laugh
You ask MDs about their political affiliation ?
To be fair to Shtbagger, I do know doctors that have laughed out loud at antivaxxers. It was magical, I think if I were visiting for any medical issues I would have been cured immediately and not needed any medicine or treatment. Fortunately, that's never the case since I am an alpha vaxxer
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Fall out wrote:
U lose__ wrote:
Sadly, all sorts of comedians and charlatans were able to take advantage of the uncertainty surrounding public messaging during a public health emergency , and conspiracy theories come about when paranoia sets in due to this fear and uncertainty
Thank you, Einstein. Did you deduce that all by yourself?
No, I think almost anyone who has a medical doctor figured this out. It’s a bunch of people living like idiots who fell for the comedians and media personalities
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To be fair to Shtbagger, I do know doctors that have laughed out loud at antivaxxers. It was magical, I think if I were visiting for any medical issues I would have been cured immediately and not needed any medicine or treatment. Fortunately, that's never the case since I am an alpha vaxxer
I'd recommend not making antivaxxer jokes at the same time you pull down your pants. It leads to you being confused over what the doctor's laughing about.
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Fall out wrote:
Coins n Mayhem Shtbagger wrote:
Fauci is widely considered to be in like the top 5 experts in infectious disease worldwide. It’s hilarious he became a target due to the massive amounts of misinformation, but during a public health emergency all sorts of weirdos post stuff online and so we are where we are. Funny but true
In addition to being a liar, a killer, and an unscientific hack, he also loves irony.
“Attacks on me, quite frankly, are attacks on science.” … spoken like he doesn’t understand what science is. 😂 Lucky for him, his religious followers definitely don’t.
Actually they do. The anti Covid vax types have been limited to places like blogs, YouTube comedians, and Rumble. Fauci is still highly respected within MD circles, but not with comedians, low education viewers, and certain (mostly) right wing media personalities.
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