Official Covid Vaccine thread

Just the latest in a long line of Covid vaccine disinformation pushed by a racist neo-Nazi party.

apotheken-umschau.de

Faktencheck: Ist die Zahl der Impfnebenwirkungen höher als gedacht?

Veronika Völlinger, dpa

Immer wieder gibt es Versuche, eine hohe Zahl an Corona-Impfnebenwirkungen nachzuweisen. Doch gibt es dafür überhaupt Belege?

Link:www.apotheken-umschau.de/krankheiten-s...

I merely reposted what a prominent MD tweeted out this am. I have no information about the source. But, even if you merely don't like the source, does that automatically mean that the information is factually untrue? Generally, publications that lack credibility scoop the bigger, MSM organizations, before some MSM is finally forced to pick it up. So, are you saying this is untrue? Can you independently corroborate that it's untrue? Because, if you can't, then perhaps you should stfu:

"The German health ministry officially admitted last Wednesday that 1 in every 5,000 injections given causes “serious side effects,” either hospitalization, permanent disability, or death. Someone who gets four shots has a 1:1250 chance of these devastating outcomes."

As posted earlier, the German public health dept has already clarified and said these stats were based on VAERS-like reporting systems that are useless for showing causality. This is the same as a antivaxxers getting triggered over VAERS data that was shown to be not representative at all of true injury rates.

Also, if a source repeatedly posts misinformation and has a clear antivaxx agenda, it's safe to assume what is post is exaggerated/false. Credibility is earned, not assumed just because they say things you like.

Not sure who you are, but I don't really have a dog in the fight. It just seems like there are a lot of cracks in the dam. Where has the German public health department declared this? Per the last poster's fact check link, which was from July 8? Did you happen to notice the date?

Lol you clearly do have a dog in the fight as you are embarrassingly credulous of openly antivaxx sources and extremely suspicious of government public health statements. Yeah, that's nice and rational.

Here is one such clarification tweet:

Standard VAERS misinterpretation from midwits.

Ok, again, I didn't vet the source. I already admitted that. I said a MD tweeted it out earlier, which actually happened. So, the tweet you posted from the Federal Ministry of Health literally says: "a causal connection with the vaccination has not yet been confirmed with the suspicious activity report; a temporal connection is established first." Hardly supports your position. But, at the end of the day, I simply asked for a rebuttal. Which you gave me. So thank you. The other link with a publishing date of July 8 was hardly a sufficient rebuttal. That's all I was calling out.

What's a bot?

Someone who says something that is true but you don't want to hear?

AKA conspiracy theorist, troll, Putin puppet, Trumpster

Much like the flu vax. I worked for 45 years plus and watched the people who got the flu vax get sick while those of us who avoided it were fine

Since VAERS isn’t to be trusted for potential side effects, what source does Harambe use to investigate any side effects resulting from vaccines. Unless your premise is not a single person has had anything negative occur as a result of their injection.

Why was VAERS trusted for 30 plus years until Covid hit?

Donald Trump, who claims to be in excellent health, was not vaccinated and ended up in the hospital with COVID.

Joe Biden, whom many claim is near death, is vaccinated and did not end up in the hospital when he got COVID.

So, either Joe Biden is in much better health than many give him credit for, Donald Trump is in much worse health than many give him credit for, or the vaccine helps reduce the severity of COVID.

Everybody I know that is vaccinated that subsequently got COVID had a very minor case, with minor symptoms lasting roughly 24-48 hours. The one moron I know that did not get vaccinated had symptoms for more than a week when he recently got COVID.

VAERS is a starting point. It's terribly low quality (and often fraudulent) data but it's good for generating hypothesis.

From there you have to run controlled observational studies using higher quality data like health care records, etc.

See: myocarditis. The CDC/FDA didn't issue their warning from VAERS data, but used much, much more trustworthy hospital data to reach their conclusion that there is an elevated risk in some populations.

The position that 'most correlations are not causal until strong evidence shows otherwise' is a wise one to take when operating in a space with so many irrational agendas and known bad actors/grifters.

I agree! So where is the research? Where's the reports showing newly diagnosed illnesses by condition by vaccination status by week. I asked for this months ago. We have reports from multiple countries of concerns. We have the two Zogby polls I linked to last week. We have the three Kirsch surveys.

Eventually, you have to look at all the smoke and wonder, "Maybe there really is a fire!"

About half of Americans have decided that they are done with the vaccines. Half of adults have chosen not to get the booster. The 6mo-4 year cohort is on pace to hit maybe 20% vaccination rate by this time next year.

If the CDC/NIH wants people to get vaccinated, they must address the concerns about adverse events. Instead, we just get the tired "safe and effective" mantra. I feel like I'm listening to Baghdad Bob when I hear reports from the CDC.

The only people who have concerns are those twisting stats and looking for signal in the noise. There have been many observational studies all over the world done with real academic rigor that have found no safety signal (and some that did! see: myocarditis). These are much more trustworthy than random polls of laymen. The issue is settled for now unless real data comes out suggesting otherwise.

The problem, Harambe, is that I see post after post after post of people who had a post-vaccination event and they were told, "It's not related to the vaccine." so their doctors didn't report it. NONE of those cases are being reported as vaccine related. It's a circular argument. These things aren't adverse events so don't report them. So they don't get reported and there is no record of an adverse event. ... so these things aren't adverse events so don't report them.

In order to determine if it's vaccine related, EVERYTHING needs to be reported and then sorted out by vaccinated/unvaccinated status. That isn't being done. It just isn't.

I want to see newly diagnosed conditions by week by condition by vaccination status. I want to see reports from HMOs on newly diagnosed illnesses.

I've already pointed out the increase in disability claims. You just blow it off as noise. I don't think you're willing to risk the cognitive dissonance to look into things like this with an open mind.

Did you not follow the DMED reports back in January? Whistleblowers reported very high levels of conditions related to the vaccine and it was explained away as a glitch. Really? A glitch that existed from 2016 to 2020 that suddenly corrected itself in January 2021 just as the vaccine rolled out. Oh, and the glitch ONLY AFFECTED conditions that have been linked to the vaccine. Other conditions weren't affected by the "glitch" and the data was the same before and after. The powers-that-be should have ordered those sergeants to fake numbers for all conditions, not just the ones related to the vaccine. I expected this flaw would have been pointed out in the Congressional hearings, but Congresspersons on both sides are dumb as a post so no one caught it!

The dam is breaking. New reports of adverse events are appearing every day. What remains to be seen is how bad is it, really? Is it 1 in 100, 1 in 1,000?

You seem like a pretty smart gorilla. Go to this link and read about a hundred of these articles on adverse events. Then, ask yourself, "Is every single one of these articles 100% wrong? Is all of these adverse events just random coincidence?" It just isn't likely that they could ALL be wrong.

thestarscameback.com

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Original Plague Page, Plague 2, Plague 3 Big stuff pinned at top: Kirsch- 48+ reasons The “safe and effective” narrative is falling apart. Damning list. Say what? 85% of critical patien…

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In the details of one of the Kirsch polls there was one household where 13 out of 13 members were vaccinated and reported to have been hospitalized for vaccine related injuries. This seems incredibly improbable.

ohhhhhhhh, everyone that YOU know had minor cases. I guess whatever you say is Gospel, eh?

Well Old Man, I know dozens and dozens of people where I work, who had Covid, got the JAB, got Covid again, and then got it AGAIN after a booster shot!!!!!! and it wasn't 24-48 minor cases.

Boy oh boy, I'm sure glad that my personal experience isn't factual and yours is. You've got JAB-Guilt, accept it Old Man.