Yea it works. PeterAttia posted a video about it. Local CVS pharmacy refused to fill a prescription. Just like Ivermectin.
Yea it works. PeterAttia posted a video about it. Local CVS pharmacy refused to fill a prescription. Just like Ivermectin.
That's not the problem. Plenty of doctors are treating covid successfully with multi drug therapies. The good ones are censored and threated with license suspension. Not to mention drugs are being pulled from the market.
rojo wrote:
a fan's notes wrote:
I feel like this article was written explicitly for Rojo:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/03/opinion/dyor-do-your-own-research.htmlThe more I think about i don't get why me thinking I may now more than the doctors is crazy.
Case in point. Two weeks ago, I took my 4 year old to the pediatrician. She knew absolutely nothing about the fact that the vaccine approval for 2-4 year olds had been pushed back from January to at least March as the testing of two shots of 3 microgams of MRNA for the little kids (adults get 30 microgram doses, kids 5 to 11 get 10 micrograms) didn't work.
I knew WAY more about the vaccine - as I'm hoping my son is eligible for it soon - than she did.
Or how about Fauci and the CDC reducing the quarantine period from 10 days to 5 but now getting nervous about the blowback and adding saying they might make you get a negative Covid test as well because scientists have been outraged that it was reduced.
Clearly, many of these people with MDs next to their names aren't exactly brilliant or following the science. They are humans like you or me who let peer pressure impact them.
Your ignorance and arrogance knows no bounds.
Yes, PLEASE tell us more about how your Pediatrician, who is trying to do his or her job and treat your child, and who actually has a REAL job (what’s your job, again?) , has to put up with you badgering them about the information you have found on the internet. Because that’s all you do. You find information—any information—on the internet to reinforce your preconceived notions of the world and then you spew it back out with no care for facts or context.
Jesus Christ. The fact that you CONTINUE, time and time again, to claim that YOU know more than medical doctors, becasue, what, you saw something on Fox News or OAN that undermines something Fauci said or did two years ago.
Speaking of doctors, there is something medically wrong with you. You need help, but you won’t ever get it, because you don’t need to. You are proof positive for how socialism ruins people. Because you are the recipient of an indefinite trust fund—which is essentially socialism—you will never see the err in your ways. You are blind. I feel sorry for you. And i feel sorry for US, who are here to talk and learn about running, that we have to continue to put up with your nonsense
stan the corgi wrote:
Research also shows Lactoferrin is very effective in prevention of and recovery from mild to moderate cases of Covid. Look it up. It's also over the counter.
You can also just drink milk on a daily basis; lactoferrin makes up about 1% of protein in milk.
Is Rojo on the spectrum or just spoiled? wrote:
rojo wrote:
The more I think about i don't get why me thinking I may now more than the doctors is crazy.
Case in point. Two weeks ago, I took my 4 year old to the pediatrician. She knew absolutely nothing about the fact that the vaccine approval for 2-4 year olds had been pushed back from January to at least March as the testing of two shots of 3 microgams of MRNA for the little kids (adults get 30 microgram doses, kids 5 to 11 get 10 micrograms) didn't work.
I knew WAY more about the vaccine - as I'm hoping my son is eligible for it soon - than she did.
Or how about Fauci and the CDC reducing the quarantine period from 10 days to 5 but now getting nervous about the blowback and adding saying they might make you get a negative Covid test as well because scientists have been outraged that it was reduced.
Clearly, many of these people with MDs next to their names aren't exactly brilliant or following the science. They are humans like you or me who let peer pressure impact them.
Your ignorance and arrogance knows no bounds.
Yes, PLEASE tell us more about how your Pediatrician, who is trying to do his or her job and treat your child, and who actually has a REAL job (what’s your job, again?) , has to put up with you badgering them about the information you have found on the internet. Because that’s all you do. You find information—any information—on the internet to reinforce your preconceived notions of the world and then you spew it back out with no care for facts or context.
Jesus Christ. The fact that you CONTINUE, time and time again, to claim that YOU know more than medical doctors, becasue, what, you saw something on Fox News or OAN that undermines something Fauci said or did two years ago.
Speaking of doctors, there is something medically wrong with you. You need help, but you won’t ever get it, because you don’t need to. You are proof positive for how socialism ruins people. Because you are the recipient of an indefinite trust fund—which is essentially socialism—you will never see the err in your ways. You are blind. I feel sorry for you. And i feel sorry for US, who are here to talk and learn about running, that we have to continue to put up with your nonsense
Lot's of people have more information that the doctor's. MD are barely competent in most cases. My own doctor, who I like because he is honest, told me I did not fit into a category where I would even need the vaccine. When asked about options, he honestly just said he really had no idea how the different vaccines tech worked or what to reccommend. Most of the time MDs are just following protocol and the advice of others, much of the time they have no idea because they are human and cannot know everything. This premise that people cannot know more about something specific than an MD, a degree you simply have to get accepted for, show up to, and and pay lots of money for, is ridiculous. MDs are just like everyone out there with PhDs, JDs, or any high level degree, they are usually normal people with modest levels of knowledge in a few areas, and modest levels of intelligence. A simple patent clerk might just be the brightest person in a room full of JD, MDs, and PhDs....titles mean nothing, degree indict the potential that someone may have looked into some things already, that is it. Rojo is doing the smart thing and looking into everything for himself rather than put the pressure on the shoulders of an MD who does not have the time to look into everything.
Is Rojo on the spectrum or just spoiled? wrote:
rojo wrote:
The more I think about i don't get why me thinking I may now more than the doctors is crazy.
Case in point. Two weeks ago, I took my 4 year old to the pediatrician. She knew absolutely nothing about the fact that the vaccine approval for 2-4 year olds had been pushed back from January to at least March as the testing of two shots of 3 microgams of MRNA for the little kids (adults get 30 microgram doses, kids 5 to 11 get 10 micrograms) didn't work.
I knew WAY more about the vaccine - as I'm hoping my son is eligible for it soon - than she did.
Or how about Fauci and the CDC reducing the quarantine period from 10 days to 5 but now getting nervous about the blowback and adding saying they might make you get a negative Covid test as well because scientists have been outraged that it was reduced.
Clearly, many of these people with MDs next to their names aren't exactly brilliant or following the science. They are humans like you or me who let peer pressure impact them.
Your ignorance and arrogance knows no bounds.
Yes, PLEASE tell us more about how your Pediatrician, who is trying to do his or her job and treat your child, and who actually has a REAL job (what’s your job, again?) , has to put up with you badgering them about the information you have found on the internet. Because that’s all you do. You find information—any information—on the internet to reinforce your preconceived notions of the world and then you spew it back out with no care for facts or context.
Jesus Christ. The fact that you CONTINUE, time and time again, to claim that YOU know more than medical doctors, becasue, what, you saw something on Fox News or OAN that undermines something Fauci said or did two years ago.
Speaking of doctors, there is something medically wrong with you. You need help, but you won’t ever get it, because you don’t need to. You are proof positive for how socialism ruins people. Because you are the recipient of an indefinite trust fund—which is essentially socialism—you will never see the err in your ways. You are blind. I feel sorry for you. And i feel sorry for US, who are here to talk and learn about running, that we have to continue to put up with your nonsense
Readers, put yourself in the shoes of Rojo's pediatrician. You're at work, a medically certified doctor, trying to do your job, which is to help children.
Then Rojo comes into your office. His unkempt hair, his mumble-mouthed, his crazy eyes, spewing word salad at you, something about COVID.
You just agree with anything he says to get him out of your office. You don't want any trouble. Then, when he leaves, you call Security, who takes down his license plate, in case you need to later report him to the police or the proper Mental Health authorities.
Is Rojo on the spectrum or just spoiled? wrote:
Is Rojo on the spectrum or just spoiled? wrote:
Your ignorance and arrogance knows no bounds.
Yes, PLEASE tell us more about how your Pediatrician, who is trying to do his or her job and treat your child, and who actually has a REAL job (what’s your job, again?) , has to put up with you badgering them about the information you have found on the internet. Because that’s all you do. You find information—any information—on the internet to reinforce your preconceived notions of the world and then you spew it back out with no care for facts or context.
Jesus Christ. The fact that you CONTINUE, time and time again, to claim that YOU know more than medical doctors, becasue, what, you saw something on Fox News or OAN that undermines something Fauci said or did two years ago.
Speaking of doctors, there is something medically wrong with you. You need help, but you won’t ever get it, because you don’t need to. You are proof positive for how socialism ruins people. Because you are the recipient of an indefinite trust fund—which is essentially socialism—you will never see the err in your ways. You are blind. I feel sorry for you. And i feel sorry for US, who are here to talk and learn about running, that we have to continue to put up with your nonsense
Readers, put yourself in the shoes of Rojo's pediatrician. You're at work, a medically certified doctor, trying to do your job, which is to help children.
Then Rojo comes into your office. His unkempt hair, his mumble-mouthed, his crazy eyes, spewing word salad at you, something about COVID.
You just agree with anything he says to get him out of your office. You don't want any trouble. Then, when he leaves, you call Security, who takes down his license plate, in case you need to later report him to the police or the proper Mental Health authorities.
This sounds like the behavior of an incompetent doctor.
Lead Foil Hat XXIV wrote:
Is Rojo on the spectrum or just spoiled? wrote:
Readers, put yourself in the shoes of Rojo's pediatrician. You're at work, a medically certified doctor, trying to do your job, which is to help children.
Then Rojo comes into your office. His unkempt hair, his mumble-mouthed, his crazy eyes, spewing word salad at you, something about COVID.
You just agree with anything he says to get him out of your office. You don't want any trouble. Then, when he leaves, you call Security, who takes down his license plate, in case you need to later report him to the police or the proper Mental Health authorities.
This sounds like the behavior of an incompetent doctor.
My god I don't know what your talking about.
If you're a pediatrician, and a grown man comes into your office and seems manic and unstable, you don't know if this man will physically assault you or sexually molest one of your underage patients. In this scenario, you could be held accountable if you DIDN'T report him to the police
fisky wrote:
fisky wrote:
By the way, I have early signs of covid starting yesterday afternoon... congestion, scratchy throat, sinus drainage, and a fever. I am doing everything on this list, except Pepcid AC and Nigella Sativa, which I ordered for express shipping to my house today. My cost for everything on this list was about $100 with the most expensive being Pepcid AC and Quercetin.
By the way, I'm 74 so I'm in the high-risk category. Yesterday and last night, my symptoms were scratchy throat, cough, sinus drainage, minor aches, and a fever of 2.5 above my normal temperature. In addition to the above list of supplements, I'm taking aspirin for the fever and pseudoephedrine for the sinus drainage. Obviously, I'm not running and I'm self-isolating. Fever now is 2.3 above normal. SpO2 is normal at 98.
Update. The first signs began Sunday with sinus drainage, scratchy throat, and fever. I took everything on the list, but Nigella Sativa and Pepcid AC. The Pepcid AC arrived yesterday and I started taking it then. Through Wednesday night, it has been like bad flu... severe sore throat and fever of 3.0 degrees above normal. At midnight, I added NyQuil and Tylenol to my routine. Either they worked or the disease has almost run its course. The fever dropped from 3.0 degrees above normal at 2 AM to 1.0 above normal at 6 AM to 0.3 degrees below normal at 10:30 AM. SpO2 remains normal for me at 98%. My throat is still sore, but not nearly as bad as last night. The NyQuil really helped a lot because it stopped the sinus drainage, which is what causes the sore throat... and my throat was REALLY sore. Mostly, I just feel weak now.
Since this is symptomatic Day 4 for me and the cytokine storm kicks in around Day 7, I'll stay on this supplement routine at least through the weekend. I'll probably post my experience on the official covid thread after I'm over this.
Question: Is there any reason to get tested? The testing lines are LONG in my state right now and I don't see a benefit in getting a non-definitive test. Maybe I should wait and get an antibody test in a month or so? Thoughts?
Is Rojo on the spectrum or just spoiled? wrote:
Lead Foil Hat XXIV wrote:
This sounds like the behavior of an incompetent doctor.
My god I don't know what your talking about.
If you're a pediatrician, and a grown man comes into your office and seems manic and unstable, you don't know if this man will physically assault you or sexually molest one of your underage patients. In this scenario, you could be held accountable if you DIDN'T report him to the police
So asking your doctor about things you have read up on and realizing they only know so much is now the definition of unstable and means you are planning to assault them, and therefore requires the doctor to call the police? If you are a doctor, you might want to find a new line of work.
Lead Foil Hat XXIV wrote:
Is Rojo on the spectrum or just spoiled? wrote:
My god I don't know what your talking about.
If you're a pediatrician, and a grown man comes into your office and seems manic and unstable, you don't know if this man will physically assault you or sexually molest one of your underage patients. In this scenario, you could be held accountable if you DIDN'T report him to the police
So asking your doctor about things you have read up on and realizing they only know so much is now the definition of unstable and means you are planning to assault them, and therefore requires the doctor to call the police? If you are a doctor, you might want to find a new line of work.
A pediatrician has a very important and job to perform. I'm sure does not involve dealing with unstable parents of his or patients.
If an unstable man was in my face, unintelligible, and wouldn't leave, I would be scared for my safety and the safety of my patients.
I hope Rojo gets the help that he needs
fisky wrote:
fisky wrote:
By the way, I'm 74 so I'm in the high-risk category. Yesterday and last night, my symptoms were scratchy throat, cough, sinus drainage, minor aches, and a fever of 2.5 above my normal temperature. In addition to the above list of supplements, I'm taking aspirin for the fever and pseudoephedrine for the sinus drainage. Obviously, I'm not running and I'm self-isolating. Fever now is 2.3 above normal. SpO2 is normal at 98.
Update. The first signs began Sunday with sinus drainage, scratchy throat, and fever. I took everything on the list, but Nigella Sativa and Pepcid AC. The Pepcid AC arrived yesterday and I started taking it then. Through Wednesday night, it has been like bad flu... severe sore throat and fever of 3.0 degrees above normal. At midnight, I added NyQuil and Tylenol to my routine. Either they worked or the disease has almost run its course. The fever dropped from 3.0 degrees above normal at 2 AM to 1.0 above normal at 6 AM to 0.3 degrees below normal at 10:30 AM. SpO2 remains normal for me at 98%. My throat is still sore, but not nearly as bad as last night. The NyQuil really helped a lot because it stopped the sinus drainage, which is what causes the sore throat... and my throat was REALLY sore. Mostly, I just feel weak now.
Since this is symptomatic Day 4 for me and the cytokine storm kicks in around Day 7, I'll stay on this supplement routine at least through the weekend. I'll probably post my experience on the official covid thread after I'm over this.
Question: Is there any reason to get tested? The testing lines are LONG in my state right now and I don't see a benefit in getting a non-definitive test. Maybe I should wait and get an antibody test in a month or so? Thoughts?
Why would you? Maybe do a T cell test in a few months if you really want to measure durability of your immune response, but antibodies, even as they wane, will tell you the same thing. Personally, I would still do the CDC’s original 10-day quarantine, not the 5-day they acquiesced to because of industry pressure.
I took a similar list of supplements. I had viral cystitis on day 1, which is a form of cytokine storm, but I never experienced the dreaded week two. Just the first three days we’re bad. Lost my smell/taste for about two days, then some sinus pressure, and that was it. I think you are smart to stay on your protocol through the weekend, even though it’s probably unnecessary.
hunter wheres the coke wrote:
jamb innnnn wrote:
Someone said Fluvoxamine is an SSRI...
Isn't that what antidepressants or antianxiety meds are? Doesn't seem like that adds up. Would be like taking a laxitive for a headache...
Isn’t ivermectin used to tranquilize horses?
No, in fact it's not. It is a horse de-wormer, not a tranquilizer.
Is Rojo on the spectrum or just spoiled? wrote:
Lead Foil Hat XXIV wrote:
So asking your doctor about things you have read up on and realizing they only know so much is now the definition of unstable and means you are planning to assault them, and therefore requires the doctor to call the police? If you are a doctor, you might want to find a new line of work.
A pediatrician has a very important and job to perform. I'm sure does not involve dealing with unstable parents of his or patients.
If an unstable man was in my face, unintelligible, and wouldn't leave, I would be scared for my safety and the safety of my patients.
I hope Rojo gets the help that he needs
Again, I"M NOT saying Rojo is a pedophile or a raper AT ALL, i'm just saying WHO KNOWS what that pediatrician thought. Doctors are VERY respected in their community, so WHO KNOWS what this doctor is telling other people about Rojo.
I think it would be VERY good for Rojo's reputation if he came on these boards AND called his pediatrician and ENSURE that he is not a deviant.
I'm just trying to help
thanks
It's not owned by Pfizer or Moderna.
fisky wrote:Thoughts?
Much ado about nothing. Good grief.
What's the mechanism of action for fluvoxamine to help with respiratory disease?
Is maybe a little skepticism Justified when the studies are small?
It's A Dangerous Drug with a lot of side effects did you ever think that you can do more harm than good? Doctors prescribe it and someone has bad side effects they could get into a lot of trouble
It's easy to be bold when you have nothing to lose
There are much better treatments and things that are proven to work in ways we understand. Without throwing random drugs that we have no reason to think would actually be helpful and a lot of reason to know that they might be harmful
Anyway just cuz you flip a coin five times in a row and get heads each time doesn't mean the coin is magical or you have some magical powers. Same thing with some random off-label drug trial, just cuz they get lucky in a small trial doesn't mean the drug is actually effective
Fisky, you good?
We had another case of delta in our household before Christmas, never reinfected.
Pretty sure I had Omicron last weekend - headache, runny nose, malaise, poor sleep, and a little vertigo. All gone now. Threw off a very faint positive hit on Binax at home test, though I find those dubious. Treated the same way.
Very confident my immunity is far more robust and broad than that conferred by these jabs. My fully vaxxed & boosted neighbor is extremely ill btw.
Anyway, hope you are good.
Covidiocy wrote:
Fisky, you good?
Day 5. All the signs of Omicron. So far, it's been like a bad case of the flu. The sore throat has been the worst part. In fact, it was a little scary. In desperation, I tried NyQuil on Day 3 and it made a huge improvement. I mean, a HUGE improvement! NyQuil stops the sinus drainage that causes the sore throat. I use NyQuil at night and DayQuil in the daytime. I highly recommend NyQuil and DayQuil for the sore throat and sinus congestion of Omicron.
I didn't have vertigo, like you. Since I'm still recovering from prostate surgery, sleeping through the night wasn't happening BEFORE I got sick! I did find that the high-dose melatonin on the protocol I posted helped me get right back to sleep.
The throat pain and congestion are both gone, so now I'm mostly tired and sleepy. My fever fluctuates up and down a degree or so every few hours. Right now, I'm only 1 degree above normal. That's down from about 1.7 above normal earlier today, but it was up over 3 degrees yesterday. I'm following the protocol I posted earlier.
I don't plan to get tested. Nashville has been hit hard by Omicron and the testing centers are totally swamped. I wouldn't change my approach or my self-isolation regardless of the test results. I'm using a povidone-iodine nasal spray so I might get a false negative from a nasal swab anyway. We had a major snowstorm today... 8 inches... which is a lot for one day in Nashville so testing would have been even more of a hassle.
I went for a half-mile hike in the snowstorm. It felt good to be outside. Other than daily short hikes of a half mile or so, I haven't left the house in four days. I think today was a turning point in that it's the first day that I didn't feel like sleeping all day long. I just took my temperature again. It's the lowest it has been in the past five days. It's 97.7... or 0.3 degrees above normal for me. I wonder if having a very low normal body temperature of 97.4 is an advantage in a disease like this?
Anyway, I feel like I'm improving, but I plan to stay cautious until my symptoms are gone for a few days. Thanks for asking.
fisky wrote:
it's been like a bad case of the flu. The sore throat has been the worst part.
You're sick from all the crap and pollution that you cram in your body, not from a virus.
fisky wrote:
I wonder if having a very low normal body temperature of 97.4 is an advantage in a disease like this?
That's about what mine's always been. No big deal either way.