Yeah.
Yeah.
I will give you a couple of reasons that I can come up with
1. Media has taken sides with their political tribe (right vs left). Because both tribes have exposure they will seek clicks and revenue elsewhere.
2. Society in general has corruption fatigue. There really is nothing that is newsworthy because the corruption is so deep and pervasive. Think about what Nixon was brought down with compared to political figures conduct today. Nobody cares as long as my tribe wins.
this is how people feel in every country that migrated to authoritarian rule. (See Russia) Essentially that everybody is corrupt so why does it matter. That is what Trump tried to peddle every time he was called in corruption.
"Well Hillary, I think we have a problem...."
She and at least Epstein, had a ton of money, a plane , an island and were popular among the rich crowd. It doesn't mean they offered sex with a 13-year old to every guy they met. Even if I was into such a thing, I would assume there would be a secret video and take a pass. She won't be taking anyone down with her.
stan the corgi wrote:
"Well Hillary, I think we have a problem...."
Perhaps Epstein was another victim of the Clinton kill list. Money and power has immense influence.
There is significant back story to consider when examining the Ghislaine Maxwell/Jeffrey Epstein saga. The suspicion that Epstein was working for Israel’s external intelligence agency Mossad or for its military intelligence counterpart is based on considerable evidence and that he was being “protected” has also seemingly been confirmed through both Israeli and American sources. Indeed, there already exists some evidence that Epstein was granted unusual leniency when he was convicted in Florida of sex crimes in 2008 involving 19 underage girls and received a sentence that was little more than a slap on the wrist. After the fact, the US Attorney for Miami Alexander Acosta, who was involved in the case, reported that the arrest and sentencing were above his pay grade, that he had been told that Epstein “’belonged to intelligence’, and to leave it alone” a comment that apparently was never been pursued by investigators.
Also, a recent book Epstein: Dead Men Tell No Tales written by Ari Ben-Menashe the former Israeli intelligence officer who actually claims to have run the Epstein operation, described inter alia how Epstein was blackmailing prominent politicians on behalf of Israeli intelligence. Epstein had been working directly for the Israeli government since the 1980’s and his operation, which was funded by Israel and also by prominent American Jews, was a classic “honey-trap” which used underage girls as bait to attract well-known politicians from around the world, a list that included Prince Andrew and Bill Clinton. Clinton reportedly flew at least 26 times on Epstein’s private 727 the “Lolita Express” to a mansion estate in Florida as well as to a private island owned by Epstein in the Caribbean. The island was referred to by locals as the “Pedophile Island.” The politicians would be photographed and video recorded when they were in bed with the girls. Afterwards, they would be approached and asked to do favors for Israel.
Ghislaine Maxwell is in fact the daughter of top Israeli spy Robert Maxwell, who received a state funeral in Israel after his mysterious death in 1991 which was attended by the prime minister as well as by all the former and serving heads of that country’s intelligence services. Ghislaine is presumed to have been an active participant in the Epstein operation acting as a procurer of young girls and on at least one occasion has hinted that she knows where the sex films made by Epstein are hidden. She also has claimed that the tapes featured both Bill Clinton and Donald Trump.
It doesn’t take much to pull what is already known together and ask the question “Who among the celebrities and top-level politicians that Epstein cultivated were actually Israeli spies?” And, of course, there is a subplot. Assuming that Epstein was in fact involved in recruiting and/or running high level American agents in an “influence operation” that may have involved blackmail it is plausible to come to the conclusion that he was killed in prison and that the suicide story was just a convenient cover-up. The Epstein case remains technically “open” and under investigation though it doesn’t seem that anything is actually happening, the sure sign that someone powerful in the Establishment is making certain that nothing incriminating surfaces. That is sometimes referred to as a government cover-up.
So, given all the drama and possibilities, one might plausibly ask why the media coverage of Maxwell, for all its allure of deviant sex combined with possible espionage, so much less in the media spotlight than were the recent Rittenhouse and Arbery trials? And even less than the ongoing trial of Elizabeth Holmes. Well, the answer is actually quite simple, even ignoring the liberal media’s desire to inflame racial passions whenever possible. We are in an era of government control of information and are witnessing selective management of what Maxwell is being charged with to eliminate any possible damage to senior US politicians or to Israel.
Television courtroom dramas notwithstanding, the fact is that people are only tried in court once they have been charged in advance with specific crimes. And the crimes they are charged with depend on what emerges from the police and other law enforcement investigation. The result then goes to a frequently politically biased district attorney who, if he agrees there is a case, then passes the case on to an elected or politically appointed judge for trial. That means in practice that trials by jury go through a winnowing process before they reach the courtroom and what comes out at the end is often only what the criminal justice system regards as “winnable” or desirable in terms of prevailing political viewpoints.
Or to put it another way apropos of Maxwell and Epstein, in spite of considerable evidence suggesting espionage, there is absolutely no suggestion that either the New York City police or the Federal Bureau of Investigation ever seriously interrogated either party on their relationships with IsraeI and with Israeli intelligence. Nor is there any indication that “celebrities” who might have been targeted like Bill Clinton were ever even questioned. That is no coincidence, as Israel almost always avoids any scrutiny. Indeed, Israel, in spite of its demonstrated and well-documented history of massive spying in the United States is unlikely ever to be confronted in a court of law because there is a bipartisan consensus that such an embarrassment to the world’s greatest friendship between Jerusalem and Washington should never be subjected to any serious examination.
That is why Maxwell has only been charged with helping the convicted sexual predator Epstein traffic and sexually abuse four women, three of whom were underage, as well as lying in a civil suit. She has denied the charges and is heavily lawyered-up to make her defense which will likely involve debunking the nature and closeness of her relationship with Epstein. A suitable plea bargain after a few weeks of court room jousting is a likely outcome.
Maxwell’s eight count indictment was issued on March 29th. If her defense fails to convince and she is convicted on all the charges, which relate to sex trafficking and sex trafficking conspiracy, Maxwell could receive as much as an 80-year prison sentence. Epstein likewise was only arrested and charged with sex trafficking and abuse of minors when he died while awaiting trial, not with being involved with a foreign country in engaging in espionage directed against the United States as well as other nations.
There are, by the way, laws against such activity, including the Espionage Act of 1918 and the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) of 1938, the latter of which has recently been enforced against Russian media outlets. If anyone expects the espionage angle to surface even implicitly during the Maxwell trial, they will be terribly disappointed because Alison Nathan, the Obama appointed judge of the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York and, appropriately enough, a Lesbian, will not allow it, the prosecutor will not seek it, and the defense attorneys will not use it in their arguments.
So do not expect anything dramatic to happen in the New York courtroom.
So @carmine has been a prolific poster recently, undermining science, the Executive branch and now the Judiciary. I'd guess he's probably supportive of Capitol insurrections, so isn't a great supporter of the Legislative branch either. He/she/they don't particularly like the pharmaceutical industry, and I'd guess probably the UN too?
Firstly, are you ok? Do you want to talk about it?
Second, what's your utopia? How should the world be organised?
busybusy wrote:
So @carmine has been a prolific poster recently, undermining science, the Executive branch and now the Judiciary. I'd guess he's probably supportive of Capitol insurrections, so isn't a great supporter of the Legislative branch either. He/she/they don't particularly like the pharmaceutical industry, and I'd guess probably the UN too?
Firstly, are you ok? Do you want to talk about it?
Second, what's your utopia? How should the world be organised?
1. How to avoid what I actually posted. Any facts you dispute?
2. You don't understand what an insurrection is if you think the 1/6 protest was an insurrection. Take a look at what the US did in Ukraine if you want to know what an insurrection is.
3. No I don't like or trust Big Pharma. You do? Why?
busybusy wrote:
So @carmine has been a prolific poster recently, undermining science, the Executive branch and now the Judiciary. I'd guess he's probably supportive of Capitol insurrections, so isn't a great supporter of the Legislative branch either. He/she/they don't particularly like the pharmaceutical industry, and I'd guess probably the UN too?
Firstly, are you ok? Do you want to talk about it?
Second, what's your utopia? How should the world be organised?
He doesn’t meet your preconceived notion of how the world is? He can’t have a different opinion than you?
Are you ok? Do you want to talk about it?
What’s your utopia?
If nothing else, he really has a great handle on the written language.
Since the mainstream media is ignoring this case, I must have hallucinated this article about the trial, which in my hazy state of mind appeared as the top story on CNN.
And since there are powerful forces here that need to have their dirty tracks covered, I must have dreamed that Epstein's pilot testified to both Clinton and Trump catching rides on Epstein's private plane.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/30/us/ghislaine-maxwell-pilot/index.html
Now that the trial has begun, the MSM is not ignoring it. The coverage doesn't have the breathless aspect of the Rittenhouse trial because (1) it doesn't involve events as recent, (2) it doesn't involve events recorded and played on TV screens, (4) it doesn't have the overt political overlay, and (5) the result doesn't have the potential to spark protests or riots.
With respect to the police and the FBI, if Epstein was involved in intelligence and the prosecutor in Florida was indeed stonewalled, the police and FBI weren't in a position to find out more. And if Epstein and Maxwell violated espionage laws, that wouldn't be a defense to the charges.
The sexual orientation of the judge hardly is relevant.
* No statements about international intrigue will come to light in this trial.
* Judge, no doubt has told defense attorney(s) do not mention names of men who flew to Florida or Caribbean Islands with Epstein or Maxwell.
* Judge, no doubt has told defense attorney(s) not to ask witnesses who flew to Florida and Caribbean Islands with Epstein or Maxwell.
* Judge, no doubt has told defense attorney(s) do not place G. Maxwell on witness stand.
This case will underwhelm.
Anyone figured out who was on the plane in the "lost" flights during Obama's 2nd term?
I gar-on-tee those records didn't disappear by accident. Qui bono that was powerful enough to hide them? I think her name starts with Hillary
domt mind me im just a horny dog
Bad Wigins wrote:
Anyone figured out who was on the plane in the "lost" flights during Obama's 2nd term?
I gar-on-tee those records didn't disappear by accident. Qui bono that was powerful enough to hide them? I think her name starts with Hillary
Why Hillary? Why not W.J. Clinton?
judge will or has convinced defense attorney ... wrote:
Bad Wigins wrote:
Anyone figured out who was on the plane in the "lost" flights during Obama's 2nd term?
I gar-on-tee those records didn't disappear by accident. Qui bono that was powerful enough to hide them? I think her name starts with Hillary
Why Hillary? Why not W.J. Clinton?
Then they would have disappeared all the ones he was on too.
I think Hillary wanted a piece of the action and hid the fact.
Afraid not Steve.
The liberal are giddy that Trump’s good name has been dragged into this. They are loving it and running news of this trial to humiliate him non-stop.
Another liberal rag printing lies about Trump.
https://todayuknews.com/travel/did-trump-fly-on-jeffrey-epsteins-plane/
judge will or has convinced defense attorney ... wrote:
* No statements about international intrigue will come to light in this trial.
* Judge, no doubt has told defense attorney(s) do not mention names of men who flew to Florida or Caribbean Islands with Epstein or Maxwell.
* Judge, no doubt has told defense attorney(s) not to ask witnesses who flew to Florida and Caribbean Islands with Epstein or Maxwell.
* Judge, no doubt has told defense attorney(s) do not place G. Maxwell on witness stand.
This case will underwhelm.
Given the charges and the identity of the defendant, the other people on the flight aren't relevant so she can order an exclusion of such evidence (I'm fine with it being included, but as a lawyer I'd have to agree with an order ruling it inadmissible as irrelevant to the defendant's guilt or innocence.
The judge cannot prevent the defense from putting Maxwell on the stand. But any testimony about others, or about spying or intelligence connections, won't help her even if allowed;
Of course every defendant has a legal right ... . Judge to Bobbi Sternheim, Esq.: You aren't planning on placing G. Maxwell on the witness stand are you? I don't see how it would help your case. You have the legal right to do so but ... . You know Bobbi, I don't want my courtroom turning into a circus.
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