Molly is a good example of toxic feminism. Here this post has as many good arguments than hers
Molly is a good example of toxic feminism. Here this post has as many good arguments than hers
toxic feminism. i like it. gotta fight fire with fire. speak their language.
Not really too much of a challenge to call out misogyny on here. About as close to a slam dunk as you can get.
jabouko wrote:
Jackas4sure wrote:
What I am saying is that I agree with Molly but so what? People will still have their misogyny and that is fine too.
No, it really isn't fine. This place is a cesspool of abuse, racism, and misogyny. Trolling is one thing -- shaming athletes, using offensive language, or simply regurgitating content from /pol/ or /b/ are patterns of behavior that are reminiscent of the darker corners of the internet.
Yes, this place is indeed the 4chan of the running world. And that is not acceptable, given that it serves as the primary place to discuss all things running.
I detest the excuse of "free speech" or that the mods are overwhelmed. Some threads are INSTANTLY nuked from this site, but racist, sexist garbage is allowed to proliferate. There is no reason for such uneven moderation until you realize the moderation team itself is GARBAGE.
I have stop posting as much and will refrain from doing so in the future unless there are threads with good statistical analysis and no salt. I enjoy my VIP membership and think access to the Sub-only podcasts are well-worth it; however, there is no benefit to posting or interacting with a majority of people here.
Just want to quote this.
The problem with the mod's is always lack of range for humor, for me. It's like my wife is a mod sometimes.
For the rest of you on this thread, just a bunch of incels acting like you are talking to a woman by bitching about or white knighting what Molly said, whoever she is.
Of course this place is toxic with a bent to reactionary right wing extremism.
Mary the Gold Diggers wrote:
Mary Cain's lawsuit is categorically absurd. There is no basis for it. It is frivolous, ridiculous, and she looks like an immature spoiled gold digger.
She lost a lot of fans today.
It's not misogynist to call that out
It's not misogynistic to have zero legal backgrounds & bash her for exercising her American rights & call her an "immature spoiled gold digger" when you would applaud a man for doing that or just not care or comment on it?
I guess what I am saying is that Molly trolled you all. Yes, she did.
tlm1959 wrote:
I agree with Molly that the comment was rough. Something along the lines of "today's climate is making it more difficult to mentor young women" is more graceful and accurate. A coach can act like a jerk to anyone but under employment law being a jerk to a protected class is risky. I guess Mary was an employee.
Nevertheless, I read through the whole series of posts where "Allez" made this comment. There are several posts in the same thread that are very sympathetic to Mary's plight, probably more sympathetic than I am.
I also recognize that Mary was one of the few teenage runners to run for a difficult guy and moving across the country to run with Al Sal would be hard on any adolescent and on top of that, she had the unfortunate burden of having a psychologist who isn't a psychologist on staff. I am not the first to ask where were her parents?
The point is, there is a mix of comments on the thread. The idea is to sift through them on your own. Stupid ideas die from exposure, not from banning them.
+1
She must have a really good life if this is what she has to complain about.
People have real problems.
I love the people who act like men don't take any sh!t on these forums. There are dozens of well hated and criticized male runners, coaches, etc. here.
jabouko wrote:
Jackas4sure wrote:
What I am saying is that I agree with Molly but so what? People will still have their misogyny and that is fine too.
No, it really isn't fine. This place is a cesspool of abuse, racism, and misogyny. Trolling is one thing -- shaming athletes, using offensive language, or simply regurgitating content from /pol/ or /b/ are patterns of behavior that are reminiscent of the darker corners of the internet.
Yes, this place is indeed the 4chan of the running world. And that is not acceptable, given that it serves as the primary place to discuss all things running.
I detest the excuse of "free speech" or that the mods are overwhelmed. Some threads are INSTANTLY nuked from this site, but racist, sexist garbage is allowed to proliferate. There is no reason for such uneven moderation until you realize the moderation team itself is GARBAGE.
I have stop posting as much and will refrain from doing so in the future unless there are threads with good statistical analysis and no salt. I enjoy my VIP membership and think access to the Sub-only podcasts are well-worth it; however, there is no benefit to posting or interacting with a majority of people here.
You poor thing. Always the victim.
lets go brandon wrote:
Hillary wannabe.
Hillary Bor? Molly looks nothing like him!
Someone responding to Molly's post on Twitter. This person nails it:
https://twitter.com/Badgergrrrl/status/1448011014436425728This post was removed.
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Molly seems like she is very angry.
Why was she at the Boston Marathon press conference. She really had nothing of value to share with the reporters other than being pregnant. I have a feeling that she will retire next year.
3 points that are all true:
1. Molly is a toxic feminist.
2. Molly is at the end of her career and wants to kick up dust to better position herself for a post-running gig (we've seen this with many other twilight female runners).
3. I used to think Molly was a "shut up and run" kind of runner and I was a fan. Then a few years ago I started seeing all her toxic feminist social media posts and I immediately stopped cheering for her and no longer considered myself a fan.
Thanks Molly!
-Krispy
There tends to be some debate as to what weight etc is "healthy" for women. The basic cliche is that elite women do not menstruate. A basic cliche being that "elite" is not really compatible with "healthy". The basic unhealthy situation of the elite lifestyle being somewhat ironic when elites live a borderline lifestyle, compromising health for sport, and then virtue signal about toxicity. A basic argument being that not menstruating relates to their low body fat and the stress of their training. If it ever ends up that an elite woman does get pregnant, basic information related to body weight and mileage could be somewhat helpful for many other women who are trying to guess where the boundaries are. Between healthy enough to have a child and lean enough to be competitive. What women have successfully raced, successfully given birth, and gone on to coach? What sort of bodyweight would these women have recommended Mary Cain target?
This thread easily proves everything she says about this site.
madas wrote:
My only issue is that the women that were at practices with Mary haven’t stepped up and agreeed all this stuff was awful… hmmm Practices were normal for adult runners … Mary was immature and wasn’t ready to be criticized .. she thought she was Amazin and life would always be awesjme
Yeah, I bet there are a lot of women runners that found Cain to be insufferable but they cannot step up and say anything or they'll be sued or shouted down.
If I were a female runner Id find Caine's actions to be very embarrassing. It just shows that women cannot accept being coached the same as men, I'd resent the heck out of that.