Since this thread is about Vermont:
"In a pandemic briefing Tuesday, top health leaders said roughly 80% of those receiving hospital care for the disease during the past week have been unvaccinated. In intensive care units, the percentage during that period is even higher — approximately 84% of those being treated were not vaccinated."
Vermont's deaths/100k is currently among the lowest in the country.
The denier-fearmongers are incapable of basic logic.
They are VERY mad that their 'pet' states like Florida and Idaho are completely surrendering to a 4th wave. Can we take back the apology DeSantis was owed yet?
Hard to feel to sorry for Vermont:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
The four states which follow Vermont in terms of the highest vaccination rates in the nation are also experiencing alarming signs.
The head of UMass Memorial Health, the largest health system in central Massachusetts, said recently that regional hospitals were seeing nearly 20 times more COVID-19 patients than in June and there isn’t an ICU bed to spare. Massachusetts has the fifth-highest vaccination rate in the nation.
In Connecticut, the second most vaccinated state in the U.S., the legislature recently extended the governor’s emergency powers to make it easier to cope with the latest wave of the pandemic.
On Sept. 22, Maine, the third most-vaccinated U.S. state, had nearly 90 people in intensive care units, a pandemic peak for the state.
Want to guess which 3 states currently have the lowest "hospitalized with covid" rates (per capita)? You mentioned all of them all in your post: MA, VT, CT.
Countrywide, cases, hospitalizations, and deaths are way higher now than in June. Urban or rural, east or west, vaccinated or not. Sad but true. Outcomes are much better in the more-vaccinated states.
jamb innn wrote:
Vermont taking that L. Not a good sign for the rest of the country.
Weren't they trying to recruit people to move there too with cash incentives, etc? (I.e. move here and we'll give you $10k?)
Im gonna assume their policies have erradicated their tax base and everyone fled.
It was very interesting, VT would pay people the 10 grand if they lived in VT but were employed out of state and worked remotely from VT. So example: graphic artist works for firm in NYC, but designs out of an office barn conversion in Battleboro. Idea is, bring in disposable income and rent to small towns of VT by incentives to give cash money. A really good deal honestly if you have a car or live near amtrak, good income anyways, live in New England.
In Vermont, the 20% UNvaccinated account for approx 80% of those in hospital with Covid.
Letsrun. Where dangerous threads posted by disinformation trolls can be debunked with a quick google search, yet no mods will delete them.
who d'unbanned wrote:
In Vermont, the 20% UNvaccinated account for approx 80% of those in hospital with Covid.
https://www.mynbc5.com/article/vermont-covid-19-coronavirus-unvaccinated-hospitalizations-governor-phil-scott/37681265#
Pandemic of the unvaccinated CONFIRMED
who d'unbanned wrote:
Letsrun. Where dangerous threads posted by disinformation trolls can be debunked with a quick google search, yet no mods will delete them.
I actually would prefer this thread stay up as a testament to how dumb Ghost of Igloi is. This is an all-time impressively idiotic OP.
From what I can tell this looks like a pandemic of the vaccinated in Vermont.
This may have been disputed, but I have a personal policy of ignoring people that post under several different usernames.
Pandemic of the Vaccinated.
Harambe/2600broReverseCowgirl wrote:
From what I can tell this looks like a pandemic of the vaccinated in Vermont.
This may have been disputed, but I have a personal policy of ignoring people that post under several different usernames.
Pandemic of the Vaccinated.
A personal policy of ignoring facts that conflict with my ill-informed and dogmatic worldview...
^the denier-fearmonger mantra!
Harambe wrote:
Harambe/2600broReverseCowgirl wrote:
From what I can tell this looks like a pandemic of the vaccinated in Vermont.
This may have been disputed, but I have a personal policy of ignoring people that post under several different usernames.
Pandemic of the Vaccinated.
A personal policy of ignoring facts that conflict with my ill-informed and dogmatic worldview...
^the denier-fearmonger mantra!
I pay attention to facts, but tune out mentally ill people with several usernames.
When a normal person posts some facts I'll check it out.
OP owns self, goes home devastated.
Harambe/2600broReverseCowgirl wrote:
Harambe wrote:
A personal policy of ignoring facts that conflict with my ill-informed and dogmatic worldview...
^the denier-fearmonger mantra!
I pay attention to facts, but tune out mentally ill people with several usernames.
When a normal person posts some facts I'll check it out.
The UNvaccinated, who make up 40% of the US population constitute 95% of recent COVID deaths.
1) Yes, Hawaii and Vermont have the lowest all-time COVID rates (cases/capita and deaths/capita), head and shoulders better than all other states.
2) Vermont has the lowest COVID case rate and COVID death rate of any state in the union. Hawaii is the only state that is close.
3) If Vermont triples their death rate, they'll be on par with Idaho. No doubt Vermont turning into Idaho is Ghost's concern.
4) For perspective, 7 day cases per 100k:
VT: 262
ID: 569
7 day deaths/100k:
VT:2.08
ID: 11.8
5) "In a pandemic briefing Tuesday, top health leaders said roughly 80% of those receiving hospital care for the disease during the past week have been unvaccinated. In intensive care units, the percentage during that period is even higher — approximately 84% of those being treated were not vaccinated."
Want to guess which 3 states currently have the lowest "hospitalized with covid" rates (per capita)? You mentioned all of them all in your post: MA, VT, CT.
6) Countrywide, cases, hospitalizations, and deaths are way higher now than in June. Urban or rural, east or west, vaccinated or not. Sad but true. Outcomes are much better in the more-vaccinated states.
7) In Vermont, the 20% UNvaccinated account for approx 80% of those in hospital with Covid.
Peter Gandhi wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
On Sept. 22, Maine, the third most-vaccinated U.S. state, had nearly 90 people in intensive care units, a pandemic peak for the state.
Since you brought up Maine:
“I was on a call with leadership of hospitals across the state of Maine, and one by one, they all recounted how in their facilities their COVID units are filled with unvaccinated patients,” said Shah. “And their ICUs are filled almost uniformly with unvaccinated patients.”
https://www.wabi.tv/2021/09/08/maine-hospitals-filled-with-unvaccinated-patients/
Yep. Anti-vaxxers want to continue to bury their heads in the sand. Morons.
Real Obvi wrote:
Harambe/2600broReverseCowgirl wrote:
I pay attention to facts, but tune out mentally ill people with several usernames.
When a normal person posts some facts I'll check it out.
The UNvaccinated, who make up 40% of the US population constitute 95% of recent COVID deaths.
1) Yes, Hawaii and Vermont have the lowest all-time COVID rates (cases/capita and deaths/capita), head and shoulders better than all other states.
2) Vermont has the lowest COVID case rate and COVID death rate of any state in the union. Hawaii is the only state that is close.
3) If Vermont triples their death rate, they'll be on par with Idaho. No doubt Vermont turning into Idaho is Ghost's concern.
4) For perspective, 7 day cases per 100k:
VT: 262
ID: 569
7 day deaths/100k:
VT:2.08
ID: 11.8
5) "In a pandemic briefing Tuesday, top health leaders said roughly 80% of those receiving hospital care for the disease during the past week have been unvaccinated. In intensive care units, the percentage during that period is even higher — approximately 84% of those being treated were not vaccinated."
Want to guess which 3 states currently have the lowest "hospitalized with covid" rates (per capita)? You mentioned all of them all in your post: MA, VT, CT.
6) Countrywide, cases, hospitalizations, and deaths are way higher now than in June. Urban or rural, east or west, vaccinated or not. Sad but true. Outcomes are much better in the more-vaccinated states.
7) In Vermont, the 20% UNvaccinated account for approx 80% of those in hospital with Covid.
ITT: crickets
IIRC Ghost of Igloi is a legit distance poster, history in the sport.
Ghost, please reconsider your position and look critically at your news sources.
who d'unbanned wrote:
Letsrun. Where dangerous threads posted by disinformation trolls can be debunked with a quick google search, yet no mods will delete them.
So dumb infact you came here took the time out of your day to post. Please go away.
Mask wearing in Vermont is common but not mandated now. Vaccinations are largely accepted, and the Governor has been serious the entire time about Covid. The Delta variant has let to an increase in cases recently, but the cases are still low compared to most other states. Amazing what consistent, real leadership can do.
Peter Gandhi wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
The four states which follow Vermont in terms of the highest vaccination rates in the nation are also experiencing alarming signs.
The head of UMass Memorial Health, the largest health system in central Massachusetts, said recently that regional hospitals were seeing nearly 20 times more COVID-19 patients than in June and there isn’t an ICU bed to spare. Massachusetts has the fifth-highest vaccination rate in the nation.
In Connecticut, the second most vaccinated state in the U.S., the legislature recently extended the governor’s emergency powers to make it easier to cope with the latest wave of the pandemic.
On Sept. 22, Maine, the third most-vaccinated U.S. state, had nearly 90 people in intensive care units, a pandemic peak for the state.
Funny post.
Now tell us what's going on in West Virginia, Idaho, Mississippi, Alabama and Montana.
And for all those people in the ICUs in Maine, MA and CT, how many were vaccinated and how many were unvaccinated?
I can’t speak for the other states you listed, but Idaho numbers are on the way down. I am not against the vaccine, but clearly there are some unknowns on its effectiveness, risks, and connection to the spread. I suspect that spread will increase in states that reopened later as well as seasonal influences.