I hate to see Idaho fail like this

I don't know where you've got these figures or if they are correct but let's assume they are.

If we'd done nothing on day one and everybody got Covid pre-vaccine (which would have been inevitable), then 1 in 200 middle-aged men and women would have died last year. These are people often with young or teenage children and managerial jobs, not people sitting around in nursing homes with chronic conditions waiting for death.

Yessiree Bob wrote:

wazzu1451 and Ghost of Igloi demonstrate their pride as residents of the only state in the union to ration healthcare — with the “death panels” the liberals were supposed to institute. Ha! Congrats, you’ve played yourselves, you morons. Another liberal socialist plot comes to successful fruition!

Idaho is just another hillbilly red state. Guns worshipped, warped Christian views, pickup trucks, and country music. Meh.

People there are isolationists. Which is good and bad. Most of them are horrible Trumper f*ckers, so they should lock themselves away from others, but isolationism isn't a pleasant living environment for most people.

Idaho is currently growing faster than its infrastructure can handle. Maybe roads and schools and other necessities will catch up eventually, but for now, if you are anywhere close to a large city in Idaho, expect traffic that is worse than the total population might predict.

Good luck finding any good ethnic food there.

Variety in a lot of things...restaurants, stores, etc. is limited.

Suicide is a big problem there.

Yessiree Bob wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Covid is so deadly, you have to be tested to know you have it.

Stick to posting photos of your 50 year old trophy collection and bragging about your half $hitty marathon PR.

Oh, you are so mean obsessed lib Troll.

😷

Cincinnati, Ohio……😹

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Taking a meme from Flagpole the libs are either morons or pushing a socialist agenda. There can be no other reason.

Not mutually exclusive...at all.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Yessiree Bob wrote:

wazzu1451 and Ghost of Igloi demonstrate their pride as residents of the only state in the union to ration healthcare — with the “death panels” the liberals were supposed to institute. Ha! Congrats, you’ve played yourselves, you morons. Another liberal socialist plot comes to successful fruition!

Covid is so deadly, you have to be tested to know you have it.

Of all the dumbest things you have said over the years, that is one of the dumbest. Seriously, WTF is wrong with you? Good Lord that is so dumb.

Most of the ICU patients fell prey to con artists before they fell ill with the virus, said Souza, the chief medical officer. He points to a patient who first tried the anti-parasite drug ivermectin. U.S. health officials have warned it should not be used to treat COVID-19. The man, in his 50s, refused standard medical treatments until he became so sick he needed to be hospitalized.

“What we’re left with is organ supportive therapy. Misinformation is hurting people and killing people,” Souza said.

What the science is clear on? Vaccines, he said. “We don't have any vaccinated patients here.”

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-09-03/idaho-hospitals-nearly-buckling-in-relentless-covid-surge

Freedom isn't free!

Finito wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Taking a meme from Flagpole the libs are either morons or pushing a socialist agenda. There can be no other reason.

Not mutually exclusive...at all.

In your opinion of course, which is to be expected. Stay in your liberally administered cesspools of filth and mismanagement. We certainly don’t want you in Idaho.

"Idaho is just another hillbilly red state. Guns worshipped, warped Christian views, pickup trucks, and country music. Meh."

R E A L I T Y

"Utah added half a million new residents between 2010 and 2020, a combination of people moving here and Utahns having children. That’s an 18.4% growth rate, the fastest in the nation.

And it wasn’t particularly close.

Idaho came in second at 17.3%, followed by Texas (15.9%), North Dakota (15.8%)"

People cannot move to Red States fast enough.

Flagpole - you stay in your blue state and collect the "check" ok big guy!

34%

Of the nation’s welfare recipients live in California but only …

12%

… of the U.S. population resides here.

https://www.city-journal.org/html/california-poverty-capital-15659.html

The actual ratio for age 40-69 would be less than 1:500 (0.18% mortality), but you are assuming no herd immunity which has never happened with any respiratory virus. Even with 100% infection the highest numbers would be in the 1:1000 to 1:10000 range. serious, but not a plague of medieval proportions by any means, especially with a plethora unsused treatments that Pharma has diligently suppressed and demonized. Also, people simply losing 30 lbs instead of gaining it (as has happened due to the f-cked-up messaging and western lifestyle of junk addiction) would crush the pandemic within a month or two. And of course, much of Asia and Africa would be basically untroubled just as they have been.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Idaho is just another hillbilly red state. Guns worshipped, warped Christian views, pickup trucks, and country music. Meh.

People there are isolationists. Which is good and bad. Most of them are horrible Trumper f*ckers, so they should lock themselves away from others, but isolationism isn't a pleasant living environment for most people.

Idaho is currently growing faster than its infrastructure can handle. Maybe roads and schools and other necessities will catch up eventually, but for now, if you are anywhere close to a large city in Idaho, expect traffic that is worse than the total population might predict.

Good luck finding any good ethnic food there.

Variety in a lot of things...restaurants, stores, etc. is limited.

Suicide is a big problem there.

Cincinnati, Ohio……😹

1) I don't live in Cincinnati nor do I defend it at all. It is a conservative area (Hamilton County) as far as big cities go, and as such, it is filled with a bunch of morons. I would never choose to live in Cincinnati.

2) While I DO live in Ohio, I also do not defend its people or its politics. Ohio is currently solidly red (though the Republican Governor is mostly a decent guy...he's wrong about abortion, but overall he's a good guy), so a red state indicates a majority are morons. That is true about Ohio. We are below the national average when it comes to vaccinated adults. The most educated city is Columbus, and so of course, it is the most liberal city in the state. Not good enough for me though. I will not live my final days in this red state with poor weather.

3) What Ohio DOES have that is WAY better than Idaho is diversity, amazing restaurants. tons of profession sports teams and big time college sports, great amusement parks and zoos, borders on a great lake (Lake Erie), more shopping choices and just more choices in general because Ohio is a very populous state (7th most vs. 39th most for Idaho).

The Grim Reaper wrote:

Most of the ICU patients fell prey to con artists before they fell ill with the virus, said Souza, the chief medical officer. He points to a patient who first tried the anti-parasite drug ivermectin. U.S. health officials have warned it should not be used to treat COVID-19. The man, in his 50s, refused standard medical treatments until he became so sick he needed to be hospitalized.

“What we’re left with is organ supportive therapy. Misinformation is hurting people and killing people,” Souza said.

What the science is clear on? Vaccines, he said. “We don't have any vaccinated patients here.”

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-09-03/idaho-hospitals-nearly-buckling-in-relentless-covid-surge

Freedom isn't free!

Yep. That story about Idaho tells the story pretty well. COVID is sending UNVACCINATED people to the ICU, and the overwhelming number of deaths caused by COVID are from unvaccinated people. Those who refuse to get the vaccine are morons.

OK. Sounds like a good place for you.

B!tch I live in Idaho Falls I know what it’s like here.

The issue here is FEAR. Hospitals are being clogged with people that have no business going to the hospital for COVID, because their symptoms don't require it.

But the government has been pushing this FEAR narrative that people run to the hospital at the first sniffle despite there being no real treatment a hospital can give you, except oxygen.

I wish we would get real medical treatment advice instead of FEAR. Because both Vaxxed and Unvaxxed are getting Covid, yet still to guidance.

Amiss Things wrote:

The issue here is FEAR. Hospitals are being clogged with people that have no business going to the hospital for COVID, because their symptoms don't require it.

But the government has been pushing this FEAR narrative that people run to the hospital at the first sniffle despite there being no real treatment a hospital can give you, except oxygen.

I wish we would get real medical treatment advice instead of FEAR. Because both Vaxxed and Unvaxxed are getting Covid, yet still to guidance.

Same mentality as pushing systemic racism, it is an agenda. Puts power into the hands of a few. Socialist agenda of bigger government, less freedom, worse outcomes for all but those in power.

wazzu1452 wrote:

"Idaho is just another hillbilly red state. Guns worshipped, warped Christian views, pickup trucks, and country music. Meh."

R E A L I T Y

"Utah added half a million new residents between 2010 and 2020, a combination of people moving here and Utahns having children. That’s an 18.4% growth rate, the fastest in the nation.

And it wasn’t particularly close.

Idaho came in second at 17.3%, followed by Texas (15.9%), North Dakota (15.8%)"

People cannot move to Red States fast enough.

Flagpole - you stay in your blue state and collect the "check" ok big guy!

34%

Of the nation’s welfare recipients live in California but only …

12%

… of the U.S. population resides here.

https://www.city-journal.org/html/california-poverty-capital-15659.html

1) What I said about Idaho is not refuted at all by what you posted there. Not sure you know how this works.

2) I don't live in a blue state. I, unfortunately, live in a Red state where only 53% of those eligible for the vaccine have received it. Bunch of morons.

3) People aren't moving to states like Idaho and Texas (and Oregon and Washington too for that matter) because of the politics. They are doing it simply because the cost of living is cheaper (got a lot of people retiring these days, and it makes sense to sell your multi-million California home and buy an even better one for a quarter the cost somewhere else)...and in the case of California (especially southern CA) they are escaping earthquakes and fires and air pollution. An influx of people into Idaho only increases the chance that it will get more liberal.

Idaho Falls? Mormon or just lost?

wazzu1452 wrote:

"Idaho is just another hillbilly red state. Guns worshipped, warped Christian views, pickup trucks, and country music. Meh."

R E A L I T Y

"Utah added half a million new residents between 2010 and 2020, a combination of people moving here and Utahns having children. That’s an 18.4% growth rate, the fastest in the nation.

And it wasn’t particularly close.

Idaho came in second at 17.3%, followed by Texas (15.9%), North Dakota (15.8%)"

People cannot move to Red States fast enough.

Flagpole - you stay in your blue state and collect the "check" ok big guy!

34%

Of the nation’s welfare recipients live in California but only …

12%

… of the U.S. population resides here.

https://www.city-journal.org/html/california-poverty-capital-15659.html

Also, unclear what you mean by "collect the check". If you are referring to collecting welfare, that is neither something I need nor want as I am stinking rich! All due to steady continuous investing since I was 23.