2021 Ivy League XC predictions...?

Legacy crowd was the worst! I was an “unsophisticated” public school person too. Not every one of them, but in the main, the prep school crowd nearly wrecked the place for everybody else. G-d, I hated Cap and Gown Club. I was in Dial Lodge with the wrestling team, and we had a good time, without pretension.

I knew a hammer/weight thrower who was recruited to Princeton after being ranked #1 HS. The guy had gone to a private Catholic high school that was known throughout the state for recruiting athletes to their school in order to win state championships. The guy wasn't known for book smarts, but he won 4 straight hammer/weight titles for Princeton with minimal conference competition that helped Princeton get team titles... anywho.

Regional rankings are available.

Men:

Princeton - #1 Mid-Atlantic (previously #3)

Penn - #5 Mid-Atlantic (no change)

Harvard - #2 Northeast (previously #1)

Columbia - #7 Northeast (previously #11)

Dartmouth - #8 Northeast (previously #10)

Cornell - #9 Northeast (previously #7)

Yale - #10 Northeast (previously #8)

Women:

Princeton -#5 Mid-Atlantic (no change)

Penn -#8 Mid-Atlantic (no change)

Harvard - #4 Northeast (no change)

Yale - #5 Northeast (previously #6)

Columbia - #6 Northeast (previously #5)

Dartmouth - #10 Northeast (previously #11)

Cornell - #11 Northeast (previously #13)

C/M Runner wrote:

The Ivy League shared some interview shorts with the winning individuals and coaches on Twitter. I thought the coaches' interviews were interesting. All four of the interviews are in the Twitter thread.

https://twitter.com/IvyLeague/status/1454825699047579655

"Pressure is privilege." Wtf?

I don't think I've heard a more brainwashed statement on the athletic mindset. No wonder these kids don't get the self-care they need. Their entire holding environment is built on wealth, power and self-destruction.

In a sense Dartmouth is the biggest athletic offender at lowering standards.

The school is far smaller than its Ivy peers but wants to compete in nearly every sport.

The result is a perversion of admissions at Dartmouth, where something like half of early decision is actually recruited athletes.

The place only has 4,500 undergrads. Cornell has 15,000. Penn has 10,000. Makes for a very athlete-heavy class.

In the final national polls before the Regional races, the Princeton and Harvard men retain rankings: Princeton men are still #18 while Harvard dropped one spot to #26. The Harvard women are receiving votes in their poll.

I'm reading this week's edition of Kyle Merber's "The Lap Count", and he had the following to say about HepsXC (I added the italics to relate to my questions below):

"At the best college conference meet in the country, the Princeton (#18) men dominated in what was the final race in their home course’s history. The squad’s 9th man finished 15th overall, but it was the Crimson’s Matthew Pereria who will have the 8k record forever. The unranked Harvard women scored 37 points and Yale’s Kayley Delay won the individual Heps honors."

Was this the last time Princeton is going to host HepsXC? Or is Princeton going to design a new home course?

Sounds to me that they're creating a new course. If it was just that they were no longer hosting Heps, there would still be meets there. A new course sounds good. Maybe they'll add a hill?

Carbon Plate In My Head wrote:

Sounds to me that they're creating a new course. If it was just that they were no longer hosting Heps, there would still be meets there. A new course sounds good. Maybe they'll add a hill?

If I'm reading this right, it looks like the area is a part of Princeton's campus expansion - the Lake Campus.

Regional races are this upcoming Friday.

Northeast Regional will be held in Boston at Franklin Park. Live results through Millennium Running (they did the Battle in Beantown results)

http://www.millenniumrunning.com/live-results

Mid-Atlantic Region will be at Lehigh (Bethlehem, PA). Live results through Mitchell Timing. Entries are available here:

http://www.mitchelltiming.com/uploads/1/2/6/5/12652145/ncaa_d1_mid-atlantic_entries.pdf

227 BADER, Elizabeth SO Penn - 31st at HepsXC

228 BAEYENS, Laura FR Penn - 65th at HepsXC

229 GARDIZY, Ariana JR Penn - 15th at HepsXC

230 HAYES, Niamh SR Penn - 35th at HepsXC

231 MORGANTI, Olivia FR Penn - 20th at HepsXC

232 PATTERSON, Bronwyn FR Penn - 62nd at HepsXC

233 SHETTY, Zoe FR Penn

234 SZORENYI, Fabianna FR Penn - 34th at HepsXC

235 WHITE, Phoebe FR Penn - 72nd at HepsXC

253 ALLEN, Alexis FR Princeton - 25th at HepsXC

254 ALLEN, Angela FR Princeton - 10th at HepsXC

255 FULKERSON, Lucca FR Princeton - 42nd at HepsXC

256 HOCK, Margaret SO Princeton

257 HUELSKAMP, Lucy FR Princeton - 50th at HepsXC

258 LIEBICH, Margaret SO Princeton - 66th at HepsXC

259 LOVEYS, Abigail SO Princeton - 14th at HepsXC

260 MAX, Fiona FR Princeton - 2nd at HepsXC

261 TIMM, Caroline JR Princeton - 17th at HepsXC

262 WAGNER, Gillian JR Princeton - 32nd at HepsXC

263 YARED, Tsion FR Princeton - 29th at HepsXC

534 CAREY, Noah SR Penn - 7th at HepsXC

535 CORNETTA, Justin JR Penn - 49th at HepsXC

536 DAGANE, Zubeir FR Penn - 18th at HepsXC

537 ILER , Justin FR Penn - 45th at HepsXC

538 KEEHAN, Michael SO Penn - 19th at HepsXC

539 LEE, James JR Penn - 74th at HepsXC

540 SELLARO, Ray JR Penn - 34th at HepsXC

541 STEWART , Oliver FR Penn - 22nd at HepsXC

542 THROOP, Dylan FR Penn - 44th at HepsXC

560 BENDSTEN, Nicholas FR Princeton - 12th at HepsXC

561 BERRY, Kevin SR Princeton - 3rd at HepsXC

562 ELLIS, Sam SR Princeton

563 FARRELL, Matthew FR Princeton - 8th at HepsXC

564 FISCHER, Camren SO Princeton

565 GROSSMAN, Matt SR Princeton - 13th at HepsXC

566 KINTZELE, Jakob JR Princeton - 9th at HepsXC

567 KIRK, Jarrett FR Princeton - 15th at HepsXC

568 LIVINGSTON, Connor SO Princeton - 38th at HepsXC

569 MONTE, Anthony FR Princeton - 6th at HepsXC

570 NISBET, Connor SO Princeton - 20th at HepsXC

571 TRIPPAS, Ed SR Princeton - 2nd at HepsXC

572 WITT, Harrison FR Princeton - 50th at HepsXC

573 ZELEK, Joshua SO Princeton - 14th at HepsXC

Supposed to be raining all day... classic New England XC weather!

Carbon Plate In My Head wrote:

Supposed to be raining all day... classic New England XC weather!

Doesn't that make it REAL cross country?

Found a different/better link for the Northeast Regional Results and entries:

http://www.millenniumrunning.com/results-ncaa-northeast-regional-2021/40050

57 Isabela Bartczak SR Brown - 71st at HepsXC

58 Mary Bibbey SR Brown - 68th at HepsXC

59 Katherine Dokholyan SR Brown - 23rd at HepsXC

60 Tevah Gevelber SO Brown - 80th at HepsXC

61 Emily Kompelien SR Brown - 28th at HepsXC

62 Isolde McManus FR Brown - 78th at HepsXC

63 Emily Moini JR Brown -79th at HepsXC

64 Maxine Montoya FR Brown - DNS HepsXC

65 Katie Orchard SO Brown - 55th at HepsXC

66 Isa Stronski SO Brown - 53rd at HepsXC

109 Phoebe Anderson FR Columbia - 4th at HepsXC

110 Sofia Camacho SR Columbia - 21st at HepsXC

111 Linnaea Kavulich SR Columbia - 27th at HepsXC

112 Rachel Kenny SR Columbia - 44th at HepsXC

113 Sofie Matson FR Columbia - 26th at HepsXC

114 Brigid McCabe FR Columbia - 70th at HepsXC

115 Isabel Schmidt SO Columbia - 73rd at HepsXC

116 Nicole Vanasse SO Columbia - 11th at HepsXC

117 Emily Virtue SR Columbia - 57th at HepsXC

118 Kaitlynn Wolfe SO Columbia - 60th at HepsXC

127 Rachel Green SR Cornell - 7th at HepsXC

128 Rebecca Hasser JR Cornell - 18th at HepsXC

129 Erin Hudson SR Cornell - 69th at HepsXC

130 Lucy Hurt SR Cornell - 48th at HepsXC

131 Izzy MacFarlane SO Cornell - 24th at HepsXC

132 Isa Meyers SR Cornell - 18th at HepsXC

133 Natalie Morris SR Cornell - 46th at HepsXC

134 Gwen Parks FR Cornell - 51st at HepsXC

135 Sarah Roffman JR Cornell - 61st at HepsXC

136 Katy Storti JR Cornell - 47th at HepsXC

137 Abigail Brazil SR Dartmouth - 33rd at HepsXC

138 Emma Kerimo FR Dartmouth - 41st at HepsXC

139 Emily Levonas FR Dartmouth - 30th at HepsXC

140 Madeleine Locher FR Dartmouth - 43rd at HepsXC

141 Madaket Nobili JR Dartmouth - 45th at HepsXC

142 Bella Pietrasiewicz FR Dartmouth - 49th at HepsXC

143 Corinne Robitaille SO Dartmouth - 16th at HepsXC

144 Natalie Shapiro FR Dartmouth - 39th at HepsXC

145 Ellie Tymorek FR Dartmouth - 19th at HepsXC

167 Eloise Freitag SO Harvard - 8th at HepsXC

168 Ella Gilson FR Harvard - 56th at HepsXC

169 Isabelle Goldstein FR Harvard - 12th at HepsXC

170 Anna Juul SR Harvard - 9th at HepsXC

171 Marianne Mihas FR Harvard - DNS HepsXC

172 Judy Pendergast SR Harvard - 38th at HepsXC

173 Maia Ramsden FR Harvard - 5th at HepsXC

174 Maya Rayle JR Harvard - 37th at HepsXC

175 Isabell Sagar SO Harvard - 3rd at HepsXC

357 Jocelyn Chau JR Yale - 40th at HepsXC

358 Kayley Delay SR Yale - 1st at HepsXC

359 Julia Dvorak FR Yale - 36th at HepsXC

360 Maddie Ghazarian JR Yale - 13th at HepsXC

361 Kylie Goldfarb FR Yale - 58th at HepsXC

362 Sophia Karperos FR Yale - DNS HepsXC

363 Zoe Nuechterlein SR Yale - 6th at HepsXC

364 Sarah Pillard SR Yale - DNS HepsXC

365 Kyra Pretre FR Yale - 76th at HepsXC

366 Kathryn Rodrigues FR Yale - 52nd at HepsXC

367 Rebecca Schultz FR Yale - 54th at HepsXC

368 Kosana Weir JR Yale - 22nd at HepsXC

412 Gabe Cannavo JR Brown - 65th at HepsXC

413 Sam Colton FR Brown - 78th at HepsXC

414 Duke Dieugenio SR Brown - DNS HepsXC

415 Jesse Edelstein SO Brown - 81st at HepsXC

416 Justin Hickey FR Brown - 82nd at HepsXC

417 Griffin McCauley SR Brown - 68th at HepsXC

418 Ben McCoy SR Brown - DNS HepsXC

419 Miles Mullins FR Brown - DNF HepsXC

420 Nate Price JR Brown - DNF HepsXC

421 Evan Sherman SO Brown - DNF HepsXC

422 Aaron Siff-Scherr JR Brown -66th at HepsXC

423 Henry Wood FR Brown - DNS HepsXC

424 Jared Yabu SR Brown - 27th at HepsXC

425 Geordie Young JR Brown

472 Julian Baeza FR Columbia - 30th at HepsXC

473 Jack Bennett FR Columbia - 41st at HepsXC

474 Tyler Berg JR Columbia - 11th at HepsXC

475 Ryan Borden FR Columbia - 71st at HepsXC

476 Jacob Ireland FR Columbia - 57th at HepsXC

477 Ben Kuhn FR Columbia - 51st at HepsXC

478 Owen Lockyer FR Columbia - 83rd at HepsXC

479 Anish Nanjappa FR Columbia - 48th at HepsXC

480 Talha Syed FR Columbia - 36th at HepsXC

481 David Vorbach SR Columbia -23rd at HepsXC

482 Paul Casavant SR Cornell - DNS HepsXC

483 Morgan Cupp SR Cornell - DNS HepsXC

484 Thomas Foster SO Cornell -39th at HepsXC

485 Greg Fusco SR Cornell - 43rd at HepsXC

486 Matt Fusco SR Cornell - 16th at HepsXC

487 Jamie Granata SR Cornell - 40th at HepsXC

488 Damian Hackett FR Cornell - 58th at HepsXC

489 Rhys Hammond SO Cornell - 31st at HepsXC

490 Perry Mackinnon JR Cornell - 24th at HepsXC

491 Caleb McCurdy JR Cornell - 63rd at HepsXC

492 Marek Nowak SR Cornell - 47th at HepsXC

493 Rishabh Prakash JR Cornell - 54th at HepsXC

494 Trey Cormier SO Dartmouth - DNS HepsXC

495 Will Daley FR Dartmouth - DNF HepsXC

496 Colin Donnelly FR Dartmouth - 33rd at HepsXC

497 Will Eaton JR Dartmouth

498 Eric Gibson SO Dartmouth - DNS HepsXC

499 Liam Jamieson JR Dartmouth - 29th at HepsXC

500 Albert Velikonja FR Dartmouth - 28th at HepsXC

501 Jason Wang JR Dartmouth - DNS HepsXC

502 Seth Weprin FR Dartmouth - 25th at HepsXC

503 Jake Winslow SO Dartmouth - 32nd at HepsXC

524 Michael Alber SR Harvard - 26th at HepsXC

525 Andrew Avila FR Harvard - 79th at HepsXC

526 Graham Blanks FR Harvard - 5th at HepsXC

527 Joe Ewing FR Harvard - 76th at HepsXC

528 Ben Hartvigsen SO Harvard - 17th at HepsXC

529 Acer Iverson SO Harvard - 4th at HepsXC

530 Luke Laverdiere JR Harvard - 62nd at HepsXC

531 David Melville JR Harvard - 21st at HepsXC

532 Matthew Pereira SR Harvard - 1st at HepsXC

719 Elon Abergel FR Yale - 52nd at HepsXC

720 Winslow Atkeson FR Yale - 84th at HepsXC

721 Leo Brewer FR Yale -35th at HepsXC

722 Cade Brown JR Yale - 72nd at HepsXC

723 Calvin Katz FR Yale - 64th at HepsXC

724 Sean Kay FR Yale - 37th at HepsXC

725 Will Laird SR Yale - 67th at HepsXC

726 Robert Miranda JR Yale - 10th at HepsXC

727 Brendan Murray JR Yale - 42nd at HepsXC

728 Varun Oberai FR Yale - 60th at HepsXC

729 Harrison Smith JR Yale -55th at HepsXC

730 Richard Sturtevant SO Yale - 46th at HepsXC

Race day.

First race is at 11am (NE Women 6km), followed by noon (NE Men 10km, MA women 6km) and wrapping up with 1pm (MA men 10km).

Any last thoughts/predictions for race results?

Personally, I think the Princeton men and Harvard men teams will get auto berths, while a few individuals will make the cut in the end (I'm thinking Fiona Max of Princeton, Kayley Delay of Yale, and Isabell Sagar of Harvard, Noah Carey of Penn)

Another thing to think about is the rainy, muddy weather that seems to be bombarding Franklin Park today . . . could shake things up a bit, but we'll see.

True, the weather will be a big factor. IIRC, the rain is supposed to last in Boston until mid-afternoon. I'm not familiar with the Franklin Park courses, but I've heard there are some good hills there, right? That could be fun to go up/down while racing.

The rain is letting up in eastern PA right now, so it will be slick on the Mid-Atlantic courses as well. I don't think the Lehigh course has any major hills, but there are some turns that could be a slippery mess (especially with so many people wearing down the grass on those turns).

I just hope no one gets hurt today from the wet/slippery conditions.

Northeast Regional - women's race, update at 3.1km

Individuals (leader, Ivies in top 50)

1 Amanda Vestri SR SYR 10:19

2 Kayley Delay SR YALE 10:24

4 Isabell Sagar SO HARV 10:32

5 Maia Ramsden FR HARV 10:33

6 Phoebe Anderson FR COLU 10:33

11 Judy Pendergast SR HARV 10:40

18 Eloise Freitag SO HARV 10:45

20 Anna Juul SR HARV 10:45

31 Zoe Nuechterlein SR YALE 10:50

32 Maddie Ghazarian JR YALE 10:50

36 Nicole Vanasse SO COLU 10:56

37 Rebecca Hasser JR CORN 10:56

38 Izzy MacFarlane SO CORN 10:56

40 Corinne Robitaille SO DART 10:56

42 Isabelle Goldstein FR HARV 10:57

43 Isa Meyers SR CORN 10:57

45 Sofia Camacho SR COLU 10:58

46 Kosana Weir JR YALE 10:58

Team scores (top 10 all, then remaining Ivies)

1. Harvard = 58

2. Syracuse = 82

3. Providence = 101

4. Yale = 167

5. Connecticut = 178

6. Boston College = 185

7. Iona = 205

8. Columbia = 229

9. UMass Lowell = 264

10. Boston University = 289

11. Cornell = 330

12. Dartmouth = 358

22. Brown = 592

Northeast Regional, Women's 6km finish line individual results (winner and Ivies in top 50)

1 Amanda Vestri SR SYR 20:05

2 Kayley Delay SR YALE 20:28

5 Isabell Sagar SO HARV 20:41

6 Phoebe Anderson FR COLU 20:42

9 Maia Ramsden FR HARV 20:58

18 Eloise Freitag SO HARV 21:10

19 Judy Pendergast SR HARV 21:10

20 Anna Juul SR HARV 21:11

22 Maddie Ghazarian JR YALE 21:14

24 Zoe Nuechterlein SR YALE 21:15

28 Corinne Robitaille SO DART 21:25

33 Izzy MacFarlane SO CORN 21:32

34 Ellie Tymorek FR DART 21:32

35 Isabelle Goldstein FR HARV 21:33

36 Isa Meyers SR CORN 21:36

43 Rebecca Hasser JR CORN 21:43

44 Kosana Weir JR YALE 21:44

47 Nicole Vanasse SO COLU 21:48

49 Katherine Dokholyan SR BRWN 21:49

No team scores yet. The website keeps looking database connection (eye roll)

Doing a quick calculation based on the individual results, I think the Harvard women won the team title by about 10 points over Syracuse (71-81). Website still not posting scores yet.

Harvard - 5-9-18-19-20-(35)-(93)

Syracuse - 1-12-17-25-26-(45)-(63)

Providence - 4-7-10-39-48-(64)-(76)

Connecticut - 13-14-15-30-71-(83)-(146)

Yale - 2-22-24-44-68-(109)

Northeast Regional, women's 6km official team results:

1. Harvard - 71 [5-9-18-19-20-(35)-(93)]

2. Syracuse - 81 [1-12-17-25-26-(45)-(63)]

5. Yale - 160 [2-22-24-44-68-(108)]

9. Columbia - 233 [6-47-57-61-62-(121)-(142)]

10. Cornell - 300 [33-36-43-92-96-(136)-(162)]

11. Dartmouth - 304 [28-34-70-82-90-(95)-(126)]

18. Brown - 473 [49-100-104-109-111-(114)-(127)]