My theory on this is that she was running way too much and doing too much aerobic work with BTC to race well at the time.
However, those years acted like a long base building phase and we’re seeing the results now. Let’s see how long it lasts.
My theory on this is that she was running way too much and doing too much aerobic work with BTC to race well at the time.
However, those years acted like a long base building phase and we’re seeing the results now. Let’s see how long it lasts.
beeline wrote:
btc club
Bowerman Track Club club
ewoifwoerg wrote:
thsjdjdjdjd wrote:
Her improvement of making the Olympic team in 2016 while sponsored by Oiselle to not making it in 2021 with the backing of Nike?!
All these wow Kate Grace is awesome threads are a head scratcher too. Who cares someone winning races that no one is running as they're all focused on the Olympics.
Maybe it's the shoes.....
QFE.
Grace wasn't often racing against the best this summer. The best were focused on the Olympics. When she did race the top athletes she wasn't beating them (Monaco & Pre are two examples).
The shoes certainly play a factor as well so talk her new PRs this summer with a grain of salt.
That being said, another poster commented that Jerry cannot coach the 800m. This is certainly true. He has had some of his athletes run solid 800's but that they usually came from 15/5 runners that had good speed to begin with (Shelby, Sinclair, Centro). 800m runners need to race more frequently. On top of not being a good 800m coach, Jerry's system of not racing makes things worse.
To bring this post back on topic, I don't think Kate's weight training was necessarily the biggest impact on her performances this year. It seems like having 800m focused training and racing more if what lead to her success.
If she had never lifted before I would say that change alone would definitely make a difference. With any 800m runner in their late 20s, whatever you that an athlete had not been doing 'almost always' makes a difference. If a speed based half miler starts doing some mile workouts or an endurance based half miler starts doing more 400m workouts, they almost always improve. Same thing happens when you add resistance training. Most coaches are locked into a training philosophy which sometimes only gets an athlete to a certain point. Combine that with an athlete who is on the other side of the curve in terms of their racing experience, physical development and executing the training they are given. At this point, the only way you are going to get better is by making a change. This happens a lot with athletes in the trimester of their career, we often call it a breakthrough.
An extreme case in point is FloJo. Prior to hooking up with Kersee, she had never done resistance training or periodization. This woman had run 11 flat without ever lifting weights or having an off season of physical conditioning. Prior to Kersee FloJo was extremely effeminate for a world class athlete and only trained seriously when she had a meet on her schedule. If you are not improving, every athlete should consider making a change.
Kate Grace also endorses this thing:
I bought one but haven't really started using it yet.
ewoifwoerg wrote:
bosshardtc wrote:
Per an Instagram story, not sure I can link.
Seriously is this part of the reason BTC athletes get injured all the time - just not durable enough through lack of proper strength training? Not high enough loads in the gym and too much mileage sounds like a bad combo. Weaker tendons subjected to increased repetitive loads.
BTC is in the gym five days a week. They do upper body, band and core work on three easy days each week. They do lower body lifting on two of their hard days each week.
They're probably not lifting so much as doing bodyweight and other stuff. Kate's indication is that actually lifting heavy weight helped her out.
Heavy squats and deadlifts twice a week after hard days to maximize recovery. Builds explosiveness and prevents injury when done correctly.
Then do core and upper body 2-3 times a week to improve form. You can do bodyweight stuff for that. Pull-ups and push-ups are heavy “lifts” for distance runners.
It’s really not rocket science to see why a program like this is beneficial.
bosshardtc wrote:
Per an Instagram story, not sure I can link.
Seriously is this part of the reason BTC athletes get injured all the time - just not durable enough through lack of proper strength training? Not high enough loads in the gym and too much mileage sounds like a bad combo. Weaker tendons subjected to increased repetitive loads.
Coach Boss has blown the knee's out of the Jamaican girl , theSouth African girl is running like a recreational runner, Kate fell apart during the Trials , Emma emotionally broke down when she saw the form of Courtney in Tokyo. BTC has the correct formula to win.
Fan Zone wrote:
Heavy squats and deadlifts twice a week after hard days to maximize recovery. Builds explosiveness and prevents injury when done correctly.
No. Please don't do squats and deadlifts. They are not specific to the running motion.
TrackCoach wrote:
ewoifwoerg wrote:
QFE.
Grace wasn't often racing against the best this summer. The best were focused on the Olympics. When she did race the top athletes she wasn't beating them (Monaco & Pre are two examples).
The shoes certainly play a factor as well so talk her new PRs this summer with a grain of salt.
That being said, another poster commented that Jerry cannot coach the 800m. This is certainly true. He has had some of his athletes run solid 800's but that they usually came from 15/5 runners that had good speed to begin with (Shelby, Sinclair, Centro). 800m runners need to race more frequently. On top of not being a good 800m coach, Jerry's system of not racing makes things worse.
To bring this post back on topic, I don't think Kate's weight training was necessarily the biggest impact on her performances this year. It seems like having 800m focused training and racing more if what lead to her success.
If she had never lifted before I would say that change alone would definitely make a difference. With any 800m runner in their late 20s, whatever you that an athlete had not been doing 'almost always' makes a difference. If a speed based half miler starts doing some mile workouts or an endurance based half miler starts doing more 400m workouts, they almost always improve. Same thing happens when you add resistance training. Most coaches are locked into a training philosophy which sometimes only gets an athlete to a certain point. Combine that with an athlete who is on the other side of the curve in terms of their racing experience, physical development and executing the training they are given. At this point, the only way you are going to get better is by making a change. This happens a lot with athletes in the trimester of their career, we often call it a breakthrough.
An extreme case in point is FloJo. Prior to hooking up with Kersee, she had never done resistance training or periodization. This woman had run 11 flat without ever lifting weights or having an off season of physical conditioning. Prior to Kersee FloJo was extremely effeminate for a world class athlete and only trained seriously when she had a meet on her schedule. If you are not improving, every athlete should consider making a change.
Not sure Flojo is a good example here.
violin wrote:
Fan Zone wrote:
Heavy squats and deadlifts twice a week after hard days to maximize recovery. Builds explosiveness and prevents injury when done correctly.
No. Please don't do squats and deadlifts. They are not specific to the running motion.
lol