Boomers discovering statistics is the worst thing ever. They can't even open a PDF or flip the camera on their phone, yet here they are lecturing us on VAERS and some random correlations from an excel graph.
Boomers discovering statistics is the worst thing ever. They can't even open a PDF or flip the camera on their phone, yet here they are lecturing us on VAERS and some random correlations from an excel graph.
Unicorn Vaccine wrote:
"In Every Country Worldwide; The More You Vaccinate, The Greater The Infection Rate."
https://thenewamerican.com/in-every-country-worldwide-the-more-you-vaccinate-the-greater-the-infection-rate/Another good day to get the truth out.
Well, here's a part of the truth:
Overall, we rate the New American . . . Biased based on story selection . . . and Mixed for factual reporting due to rejecting the consensus of science and poor sourcing techniques.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-new-american/But let's look at the article itself, shall we? [Oh, wait--it's *not* an article, but a 25min video, about which TNA itself says: "Views and opinions expressed on The Ben Armstrong Show are solely those of the host and do not necessarily represent those of The New American. TNA is not responsible for, and does not verify the accuracy of, any information presented." Emphases mine.]
But to his points: Yes, the infection rate *has* climbed among the vaccinated--AND among the unvaccinated. Hello, Omicron--this is not news.
Death rates are going up too. Hello, Omicron (AND Delta)--the real news, of course, is the death rate (per capita) within a given age group is many times higher among the unvaccinated.
In other words: Yes, countries around the world are getting a higher percentage of their people vaccinated, and a higher percentage are getting infected. Again, hello Omicron!
What is mendacious is his implication that vaccination is *causing* the increase in infection* and death. Fortunately, multiple posters have presented hard evidence (not just "views and opinions") that with vaccination there are fewer hospitalizations and *many* fewer deaths per capita.
*As always, "infection" (or "cases") simply means positive tests. On average countries that work harder to vaccinate also work harder to test; and, as we see in the USA, on average *people* who are vaccinated get tested more frequently. Result, more *recorded* cases.
Unicorn Vaccine wrote:
Natural immunity is very [protective] against severe disease [provided you're not one of the millions who've died in attaining it--FTFY]. OTOH, these gene-therapy vaccines have dangerous side-effects:
"41,009,389 Adverse Events and 861,082 Vaccine Deaths Says Calculated VAERS Data."
https://thenewamerican.com/41009389-adverse-events-and-861082-vaccine-deaths-says-calculated-vaers-data/"Doctors Say COVID Vaccines Are Causing Cancer and AIDS! Also 3 Whistleblowers Have DOD Data!"
https://thenewamerican.com/doctors-say-covid-vaccines-are-causing-cancer-and-aids-also-3-whistleblowers-have-dod-data/
Missed these before, and now realize that you're just trolling. Okay, UV: You got me. Well played.
Harambe wrote:
Boomers discovering statistics is the worst thing ever. They can't even open a PDF or flip the camera on their phone, yet here they are lecturing us on VAERS and some random correlations from an excel graph.
Even funnier is that your life revolves around arguing with 3 senior citizens in this thread. You should be thankful that someone, anyone, is paying attention to you.
It's another great day to laugh at Harambe.
Ivyguy wrote:
Unicorn Vaccine wrote:
"In Every Country Worldwide; The More You Vaccinate, The Greater The Infection Rate."
https://thenewamerican.com/in-every-country-worldwide-the-more-you-vaccinate-the-greater-the-infection-rate/Another good day to get the truth out.
Well, here's a part of the truth:
Overall, we rate the New American . . . Biased based on story selection . . . and Mixed for factual reporting due to rejecting the consensus of science and poor sourcing techniques.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-new-american/But let's look at the article itself, shall we? [Oh, wait--it's *not* an article, but a 25min video, about which TNA itself says: "Views and opinions expressed on The Ben Armstrong Show are solely those of the host and do not necessarily represent those of The New American. TNA is not responsible for, and does not verify the accuracy of, any information presented." Emphases mine.]
But to his points: Yes, the infection rate *has* climbed among the vaccinated--AND among the unvaccinated. Hello, Omicron--this is not news.
Death rates are going up too. Hello, Omicron (AND Delta)--the real news, of course, is the death rate (per capita) within a given age group is many times higher among the unvaccinated.
In other words: Yes, countries around the world are getting a higher percentage of their people vaccinated, and a higher percentage are getting infected. Again, hello Omicron!
What is mendacious is his implication that vaccination is *causing* the increase in infection* and death. Fortunately, multiple posters have presented hard evidence (not just "views and opinions") that with vaccination there are fewer hospitalizations and *many* fewer deaths per capita.
*As always, "infection" (or "cases") simply means positive tests. On average countries that work harder to vaccinate also work harder to test; and, as we see in the USA, on average *people* who are vaccinated get tested more frequently. Result, more *recorded* case
mediabiasfactBS is Leftist organization - so don't try & pull the crap on me. And what "hard" evidence is there with fewer hospitalizations & deaths with these gene-therapy concoctions? Oh...I forgot...the info is coming the effin CDC. Lol. 🤣 The same effin CDC that gets half it's effin funding from BIG PHARMA & an organization operated by a bunch of Leftists. Lol.
I'm totally fed up with you Leftists & your BS corruption covering up the dangers of these gene-therapy concoctions!
The institution screwed up with omicron and blew their cover since it was a weak variant yet they still instituted stringent restrictions amd mandates in many places which did not line up with the threat of the disease. Thus more people are catching on to the true nature of the scheme. Now the next inevitable variant will be a really strong one (perhaps purposely created and released from Fauci's commy lab in China once again) so they can dupe the sheep into giving up basic human rights and freedoms under the guise of health. Time to wake up.
Fauci plays the victim in Washington Post puff piece. He needs to follow the example of Breyer.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2022/01/27/fauci-pandemic-threats/
“I’m always looking for the good in people, that kernel of something that’s positive,” Fauci says. “And it’s tough to imagine that that many people are bad people. And, I mean, it’s just — has something been smoldering in their lives? Something that’s sociologically evasive to me?”
Conservative Right-Winger wrote:
And what "hard" evidence is there with fewer hospitalizations & deaths with these gene-therapy concoctions? Oh...I forgot...the info is coming the effin CDC. Lol. 🤣 The same effin CDC that gets half [its] effin funding from BIG PHARMA & an organization operated by a bunch of Leftists. Lol.
I'm totally fed up with you Leftists & your BS corruption covering up the dangers of these gene-therapy concoctions!
1. "Leftist"? In 40+ years as a voter I have never cast a ballot on the Democratic line. For any office. So there's that.
But if you mean "leftist" as in, "reality has a well-known liberal bias"--well, guilty, I guess.
2. Here's another piece of reality: "CDC manages approximately $2.1 billion in financial and resource investments for global health. In addition to Congressional Appropriations, CDC receives approximately $12 million in global funding through foundationsand other donors including the Bloomberg Family Foundation, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, and the CDC Foundation." Twelve million dollars is NOT "half" of $2.1 billion. It's a little over one-half of one percent.
Now that you know it's false, please don't repeat the "half its funding!" falsehood. Knowing falsehoods are LIES.
Conservative Right-Winger wrote:
mediabiasfactBS is Leftist organization - so don't try & pull the crap on me. And what "hard" evidence is there with fewer hospitalizations & deaths with these gene-therapy concoctions? Oh...I forgot...the info is coming the effin CDC. Lol. 🤣 The same effin CDC that gets half it's effin funding from BIG PHARMA & an organization operated by a bunch of Leftists. Lol.
I'm totally fed up with you Leftists & your BS corruption covering up the dangers of these gene-therapy concoctions!
Every country in the world reports lower hospitalization and death rates among the vaccinated.
Feel free to troll about mild infections and VAERS and stuff, but you look legitimately stupid if you start claiming the vaccine doesn't work against severe disease.
Ivyguy wrote:
Now that you know it's false, please don't repeat the "half its funding!" falsehood. Knowing falsehoods are LIES.
That’s like asking the Earth to stop being round. Lies are the antivaxxer’s primary source of nourishment, right after being parasites to society. It is not in their nature to be decent people who give a sh!t to actually learn about what they do arrogantly and embarrassingly talk about.
This nonsense while Libs March our kids to War.
DanM wrote:
Fauci plays the victim in Washington Post puff piece. He needs to follow the example of Breyer.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2022/01/27/fauci-pandemic-threats/“I’m always looking for the good in people, that kernel of something that’s positive,” Fauci says. “And it’s tough to imagine that that many people are bad people. And, I mean, it’s just — has something been smoldering in their lives? Something that’s sociologically evasive to me?”
Jesus that monster is quite the shameless psychopath. The people are clearly just irrelevant puppets to him. As are beagle dogs and whatever else he targets with his disturbing experiments. Time to wake up.
And of yeah Fauci also used African orphan child as science experiments too. The book The Real Anthony Fauci summarizes this fact succinctly.
troll_69 wrote:
Ivyguy wrote:
Now that you know it's false, please don't repeat the "half its funding!" falsehood. Knowing falsehoods are LIES.
That’s like asking the Earth to stop being round. Lies are the antivaxxer’s primary source of nourishment, right after being parasites to society. It is not in their nature to be decent people who give a sh!t to actually learn about what they do arrogantly and embarrassingly talk about.
It's been tragic to see some of the antivaxxers here shift from arguing about reasonable doubt, some possibly healthy skepticism, etc to just making crap up. Rather then adjust their views when all the vaccine data came back overwhelmingly positive -- they've just retreated into fantasy land.
Release the data. Release the data they have but don’t want us to see for a long time.
Also, your divisive little thread here failed. No one is going to hate someone based on a medical decision. Natural immunity is real. The mandates at this point are pointless. Heck, everyone is probably immune now after Omi. Canadians will not be divided. They are coming together. It is beautiful to see.
Dont want to wait 50 years wrote:
Release the data. Release the data they have but don’t want us to see for a long time.
Also, your divisive little thread here failed. No one is going to hate someone based on a medical decision. Natural immunity is real. The mandates at this point are pointless. Heck, everyone is probably immune now after Omi. Canadians will not be divided. They are coming together. It is beautiful to see.
What data? Be specific.
Natural immunity is decent. Worked well for Delta, worked terribly for Omicron. Vaccination held up great in both cases - it's more robust and reliable.
Mandates aren't an issue. No one is forcing you to get vaccinated. If your employer holds you to certain health and safety standards you cannot live with... get a new job.
By and large, the unvaccinated have died in en masse, whilst causing the country much pain and annoyance. Their little gambit failed.
Dont want to wait 50 years wrote:
Release the data. Release the data they have but don’t want us to see for a long time.
Also, your divisive little thread here failed. No one is going to hate someone based on a medical decision. Natural immunity is real. The mandates at this point are pointless. Heck, everyone is probably immune now after Omi. Canadians will not be divided. They are coming together. It is beautiful to see.
Just like all too common past failures of humanity, in the year 2075 it will be official that they "accidentally" screwed up because "we didn't know then what we know now" and caused immense problems. Their stalling tactics are merely initiated to cover their dirt and keep their well oiled money making, politically spurred scheme thriving. As is the fact big pharma can't be sued.
This all happens for a reason, not just coincidentally. They study human nature and exploit human gullibility, summon misplaced trust and also exploit inability to figure things out and groupthink tendencies. Time to wake up before it's too late in 2075. Accountability needs to be demanded for a change.
Ivyguy wrote:
Conservative Right-Winger wrote:
And what "hard" evidence is there with fewer hospitalizations & deaths with these gene-therapy concoctions? Oh...I forgot...the info is coming the effin CDC. Lol. 🤣 The same effin CDC that gets half [its] effin funding from BIG PHARMA & an organization operated by a bunch of Leftists. Lol.
I'm totally fed up with you Leftists & your BS corruption covering up the dangers of these gene-therapy concoctions!
1. "Leftist"? In 40+ years as a voter I have never cast a ballot on the Democratic line. For any office. So there's that.
But if you mean "leftist" as in, "reality has a well-known liberal bias"--well, guilty, I guess.
2. Here's another piece of reality: "CDC manages approximately $2.1 billion in financial and resource investments for global health. In addition to Congressional Appropriations, CDC receives approximately $12 million in global funding through foundationsand other donors including the Bloomberg Family Foundation, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, and the CDC Foundation." Twelve million dollars is NOT "half" of $2.1 billion. It's a little over one-half of one percent.
Now that you know it's false, please don't repeat the "half its funding!" falsehood. Knowing falsehoods are LIES.
Sure...that's what they all say - and you're full of "LIES". Lol. Here's another piece of reality for you in defending such a corrupt & captured agency!!!
"CDC and WHO Corrupt Financial Entanglements with the Vaccine Industry."
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/cdc-who/☝️"The pharmaceutical industry enforces policy discipline through agency budgets. The World Health Organization (WHO) gets roughly half its budget from private sources, including Pharma and its allied foundations. And CDC, frankly, is a vaccine company; it owns 56 vaccine patents and buys and distributes $4.6 billion in vaccines annually through the Vaccines for Children program, which is over 40% of its total budget. Further, Pharma directly funds, populates and controls dozens of CDC programs through the CDC foundation. A British Medical Journal editorial excoriates CDC’s sweetheart relationship with pharma quotes UCLA Professor of Medicine Jerome R. Hoffman “most of us were shocked to learn the CDC takes funding from industry… It is outrageous that industry is apparently allowed to punish the CDC if the agency conducts research that has potential to cut into profits.”
The CDC is owned & operated by Big Pharma. Any Conservative/Libertarian Right-Winger wor reformed Democrat would know this. You lefties are under the mind-controlled hypnosis of Big Pharma propaganda. 😂