Why won't some adults still not get vaccinated?

vaccinated wrote:

sayyestonepotism wrote:

Because as a healthy person in your twenties there is no reason. The chance to die from covid is basically 0

This is a self-centered point of view. The purpose of vaccination is social not personal. The idea is to stop the spread of the disease and to decrease the possibility it mutates into a more virulent strain. For this it is fundamental to vaccinate 20 year olds who, moreover, because of their social behavior are likely to be principal spreaders.

You live in a society, in a community, and have a responsibility and obligation to it and the other people in it.

I'd argue their primary aim is to stop the recipient getting sick enough to require hospital care, not spreading in it. In fact I'd argue they are more likely to spread it once vaccinated.

Secondly, viruses mutate anyway, it's what they do. And 99% of the time they mutate to a less dangerous form, more contagious maybe but less dangerous, wouldn't it be better to let it mutate?

No reason to think vaccination makes people more likely to spread... at all.

Your plan to evolve the virus away from lethality requires mass infection and many hospitalizations and deaths. Will you volunteer?

Where is this deadly pandemic?

18 months in.

Not a sign of it in my life.

Real life that is.

It's all I see on tv, online, newspapers, etc.

vaccinated wrote:

sayyestonepotism wrote:

Because as a healthy person in your twenties there is no reason. The chance to die from covid is basically 0

This is a self-centered point of view. The purpose of vaccination is social not personal. The idea is to stop the spread of the disease and to decrease the possibility it mutates into a more virulent strain. For this it is fundamental to vaccinate 20 year olds who, moreover, because of their social behavior are likely to be principal spreaders.

You live in a society, in a community, and have a responsibility and obligation to it and the other people in it.

Sorry vaccinated can spread it just as well. If you believe you are safe you even might take liberties and spread more. Sorry there isnt a good reason to vaccinate young healthy humans

vaccinated wrote:

sayyestonepotism wrote:

Because as a healthy person in your twenties there is no reason. The chance to die from covid is basically 0

This is a self-centered point of view. The purpose of vaccination is social not personal. The idea is to stop the spread of the disease and to decrease the possibility it mutates into a more virulent strain. For this it is fundamental to vaccinate 20 year olds who, moreover, because of their social behavior are likely to be principal spreaders.

You live in a society, in a community, and have a responsibility and obligation to it and the other people in it.

You honestly believe young people who are not getting sick from Covid are causing others to become seriously ill? I sure don't find that credible. You do know that viruses mutate into being harmless 99 times out of 100. Why is Covid so different? Where is the Spanish flu?

Harambe wrote:

55YO wrote:

But that is contrary to their nature. They are compelled to express their superiority over others by the hour. I mean, no matter what hour of the day it is, one of them is on here spouting drivel. Do they even have jobs. Or is spouting their drivel their paid gig?

Old boomers madposting without knowing what RNA is will -never- change their minds. The best course of action is to shutdown the denier-fearmongers' rhetoric hard and fast. There's no need to be polite as they are not arguing in good faith.

Tone-policing is what losers turn to when they know they've lost the argument.

"You're destroyed all my points but you could have been nicer, therefore I am right" <- it sounds very dumb when you spell it out

Username says it all. Harambe actually said this. All his posts should be met with laughter.

Biden fixed COVID wrote:

Harambe wrote:

Old boomers madposting without knowing what RNA is will -never- change their minds. The best course of action is to shutdown the denier-fearmongers' rhetoric hard and fast. There's no need to be polite as they are not arguing in good faith.

Tone-policing is what losers turn to when they know they've lost the argument.

"You're destroyed all my points but you could have been nicer, therefore I am right" <- it sounds very dumb when you spell it out

Username says it all. Harambe actually said this. All his posts should be met with laughter.

What an awesome tactic! Ridicule anyone with a differing opinion. I mean, if it works for teenage bully groups, why not here?

55YO wrote:

Biden fixed COVID wrote:

Username says it all. Harambe actually said this. All his posts should be met with laughter.

What an awesome tactic! Ridicule anyone with a differing opinion. I mean, if it works for teenage bully groups, why not here?

Are you new to the board? Harambe regularly ridicules and insults those who don't goose step in unison with him. And he actually said Biden fixed COVID. As such, the tactic and content is justified.

But why do people still refuse to get vaccinated?

Because the American people made a horrible and likely (in my view) fatal-to-the-republic mistake in 2016 by allowing someone with the damaged psyche of Donald Trump into our politics. This all stems from him. No other politician would have been vile enough (and stupid enough, as anti-COVIDvax is ultimately is a losing strategy politically as it literally kills off his base of voters) to politicize COVID the way Trump has done. And also because people are very stupid. Put the two together and BOOM.

Harambe wrote:

The best course of action is to shutdown the denier-fearmongers' rhetoric hard and fast.

You have been saying that since last year.

Since last year you said "deniers" would eventually stop posting.

As usual, you were wrong.

As for "shutdown" the way you use it, be careful with your threats. Just sayin'.

5566yyuu wrote:

Harambe wrote:

The best course of action is to shutdown the denier-fearmongers' rhetoric hard and fast.

You have been saying that since last year.

Since last year you said "deniers" would eventually stop posting.

As usual, you were wrong.

As for "shutdown" the way you use it, be careful with your threats. Just sayin'.

Harambe single-handedly drove off 1) Facts Matter 2) Allen53 3) dunes runner 4) Lead Foil Hat (for a few months)

If you come for the king... you best not miss.

Careful boys.

Biden fixed COVID wrote:

55YO wrote:

What an awesome tactic! Ridicule anyone with a differing opinion. I mean, if it works for teenage bully groups, why not here?

Are you new to the board? Harambe regularly ridicules and insults those who don't goose step in unison with him. And he actually said Biden fixed COVID. As such, the tactic and content is justified.

You are very easily triggered...

I think Harambe would could this a win. Maybe it made you aware of your dogma? Unlikey...

2600 bro wrote:

5566yyuu wrote:

You have been saying that since last year.

Since last year you said "deniers" would eventually stop posting.

As usual, you were wrong.

As for "shutdown" the way you use it, be careful with your threats. Just sayin'.

Harambe single-handedly drove off 1) Facts Matter 2) Allen53 3) dunes runner 4) Lead Foil Hat (for a few months)

If you come for the king... you best not miss.

Careful boys.

1. You talking in the third person doesn't make it any less obvious that you are Harambe.

2. You didn't drive anyone off.

3. I am not going anywhere. I don't waste more than a few minutes a day with fearmongering idiots like you. Besides, you deserve indifference, not hatred or anything like it.

4. You ought to be careful when you use threatening words on the boards. If someone gets hurt because of them you will be (co-)responsible.

Now have a nice day.

2600 bro wrote:

Biden fixed COVID wrote:

Are you new to the board? Harambe regularly ridicules and insults those who don't goose step in unison with him. And he actually said Biden fixed COVID. As such, the tactic and content is justified.

You are very easily triggered...

I think Harambe would could this a win. Maybe it made you aware of your dogma? Unlikey...

"would could"... "Unlikey"...

You shouldn't drink so early in the day.

5566yyuu wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

Harambe single-handedly drove off 1) Facts Matter 2) Allen53 3) dunes runner 4) Lead Foil Hat (for a few months)

If you come for the king... you best not miss.

Careful boys.

1. You talking in the third person doesn't make it any less obvious that you are Harambe.

2. You didn't drive anyone off.

3. I am not going anywhere. I don't waste more than a few minutes a day with fearmongering idiots like you. Besides, you deserve indifference, not hatred or anything like it.

4. You ought to be careful when you use threatening words on the boards. If someone gets hurt because of them you will be (co-)responsible.

Now have a nice day.

Harambe and I have been generous with those wanting to learn, but have brutally tag-teamed the disingenuous trolls who cannot engage in base-level discussion of COVID.

Shut them down, send them home devastated, lock them up... whatever language the word-police deems valid :)

Remember I don't post for you, I post for the many more lurkers who might be misled by your trolling!

5566yyuu wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

Harambe single-handedly drove off 1) Facts Matter 2) Allen53 3) dunes runner 4) Lead Foil Hat (for a few months)

If you come for the king... you best not miss.

Careful boys.

1. You talking in the third person doesn't make it any less obvious that you are Harambe.

2. You didn't drive anyone off.

3. I am not going anywhere. I don't waste more than a few minutes a day with fearmongering idiots like you. Besides, you deserve indifference, not hatred or anything like it.

4. You ought to be careful when you use threatening words on the boards. If someone gets hurt because of them you will be (co-)responsible.

Now have a nice day.

Nothing like a week old thread that the boomers just found…

I’ve driven off 10x more accounts than sock puppets you’ve had time to make.

I always welcome good faith discussion but most boomers (including those clogging up last page) just come on to grumble and whine without engaging with the facts and/or post conspiracy content because they do not understand how to find reliable sources on the internet.

There’s no need to engage politely with these angry, tired souls. Best to tell them why they’re wrong and give little space for their misinformation laden tirades.

It does work, as I said, countless denier-fearmongers have stopped posting because we work to make LRC a somewhat inhospitable climate for the complete BS they have managed to believe.

They always make the excuse of “I don’t have the time.” It takes me a few minutes a day to log in and own all you morons. It’s not my fault it’s much easier to relate facts and reason than craft the intricate conspiracies needed to justify the insane positions the deniers hold. That in-and-of-itself is evidence I am correct, not a valid excuse for logging off. Although we do appreciate when you do and let big boys talk about the important stuff. Cheers mate.

5566yyuu wrote:

Harambe wrote:

The best course of action is to shutdown the denier-fearmongers' rhetoric hard and fast.

You have been saying that since last year.

Since last year you said "deniers" would eventually stop posting.

As usual, you were wrong.

As for "shutdown" the way you use it, be careful with your threats. Just sayin'.

Fellas, is “shutdown” literal violence? You sound like a liberal. Sheesh. Sho much for the tolerant left.

Unless you’re a computer, I don’t think “shutdown” communicates any physical intent :)

Also... it's clear you are not from the US.

Here we have this thing called "freedom of speech" in the "Constitution"

This will be hilarious when it gets to Federal court. Watch the "mandate" get thrown out.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/07/29/biden-vaccine-federal-workers/