Hobbs Kessler to Adidas!

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought the whole NIL thing was so student athletes could make money from things like YouTube channels and merchandise, not flat out getting paid to compete in a sport.

I’d argue that most NCAA athletes have access to better training and recovery facilities than pro-runners, and they don’t have to pay for them typically.

sbeefyk2 wrote:

Let's think about it. Go to college where your scholarship pays for tuition and housing and you net $0. Or, get a $50k base salary with an additional housing stipend and a travel budget to travel the world.

And NAU will not pay him extra money. NAU is not a big athletic school generating hundreds of millions of dollars like the SEC schools.

I guarantee his base is way more than $50K.

king999 wrote:

Some of you are so far off it is frightening, on this.

I just laughed when I saw $50K.

In the early 80s I was a pretty good, but no superstar, miler coming out of college. Nike offered me a $30k, plus incentives, contract 35-40 yrs ago. That's the equivalent of $80k+ today.

My good man, it is laughable. LOL. Let's just say it was years and money you simply could not turn down, then go step in a hole get injured and your market value plummets immediately. No matter what people would say or think. lol

He should be able to go pro and run for NAU if he wants. When are we going to get rid of this ridiculous system? Kessler should not have to choose one way or another. If he is this good, he should be able to have his cake and eat it too. Time to end "amateur" athletics for all.

I’m not trying to be rude but I guess I just can’t fathom the reasoning why he would get anything like 75-150k a year in a multi year contract. like does adidas really get that much value off their runners? If so how? Do they just hope that their athletes can influence consumers to buy product by social media post and their performances on the track?

I’m naive to all of the numbers so would love to hear if anyone has insight. I’m dam jealous this 18 year old kid can be making a nice salary to get to run professionally. I just don’t see how this shoe companies make their money back realistically if they are giving that much salary to their athletes..?

Just as an example, what If Sydney MCGlaughlin God forbid, stayed another year at UK, hit a hurdle out in lane 3 as a Collegian in practice, tore a meniscus or MCL? Wonder if that incredibly lucrative deal, maybe highest American paid ever? Ever gets done? Actually, I don't wonder, it probably does not, not at those years and numbers?

Probably less than 10% of even top tier folks make life changing money, Kessler , not by his record race wise, but where he sits time wise, this year and at his age all time as an American should be one of those guys.

Let me ask this? Where does Craig Engels sit in the U.S. 1500 hierarchy? Pick yur number, I would say no worse than three, probably 2, and on a given day could be 1?

You know what his lifetime PR at 15 is? 3:36.64 JUST SET this season...

Kessler just ran 3:34.46 in that same race..

Who has a higher ceiling? Engels at 27!! OR Kessler at just turned 18? Come on now I think we know that answer, it took Engels 8-9 years to get to 3:33.64. It took Kessler in earnest? Less than 11 months to go from 4:08 yards to 3:34.46 1500 meters.

Thats what you pay anyone for.... very few athletes in any sport , really drive shoe sales.

Very few I said, I did not say none.

How many people know what shoes Jon Rahm or Dustin Johnson wear? Think they get paid by Golf

Equipment and apparel companies, well they do. Jordan Speith has one of the more lucrative deals with Under Armour, ever crafted, Does anyone anybody know buy UA because of Speith wearing it? Just a thought.

So if he is still going to Flagstaff, does he have a team and/or coach to join? Or is this another Drew Hunter situation where they are giving an 18 year old free reign?

Will he start his own posse of 2nd tier post-collegiate runners to train with and start dropping Very Nice Elite Track Club merch?

ggteyagain wrote:

I’m not trying to be rude but I guess I just can’t fathom the reasoning why he would get anything like 75-150k a year in a multi year contract. like does adidas really get that much value off their runners? If so how? Do they just hope that their athletes can influence consumers to buy product by social media post and their performances on the track?

I’m naive to all of the numbers so would love to hear if anyone has insight. I’m dam jealous this 18 year old kid can be making a nice salary to get to run professionally. I just don’t see how this shoe companies make their money back realistically if they are giving that much salary to their athletes..?

Whatever the amount really is it's nothing to a big company. If the total package were a million a year that's around how much a company would pay for several professional office workers' salaries and benefits. Adidas also gets to deduct the amount from taxes.

Another well stated point, and I also suspect you might see a Kessler spot or so, on thecoverage

sbeefyk2 wrote:

Fat Boy wrote:

You guys really need to get a life. Why would Kessler become a pro runner? What a sad life that would be. Kessler wants to go to college, be part of a team, get a degree and then find a career. Maybe he'd like to be a teacher, like his mother. Maybe he'd like to be an engineer. Northern Arizona is going to pay him well. He's not going to go pro.

Let's think about it. Go to college where your scholarship pays for tuition and housing and you net $0. Or, get a $50k base salary with an additional housing stipend and a travel budget to travel the world.

And NAU will not pay him extra money. NAU is not a big athletic school generating hundreds of millions of dollars like the SEC schools.

You need to go to a different forum. I'm newer here so I don't know if you're one of those posters that other posters know you're real identity, but you are one clueless person, probably over 50 I'd guess as you are way out of touch, big time!

I live in Ann Arbor and have seen him run many, many times----may have even raced against him--wink, wink:)------->if you think Hobbs is getting 50k a year you are completely nuts and that's being kind.

You need to get off the bottle or whatever it is you're on as I've seen several posts by you in the last month that don't make you look too bright.

$50k per year plus bonuses for guaranteed 10 years and all college paid. $50k bonus for making Olympic team for example. He should be able to average close to $100k per year plus have college paid for 8 years if he wants.

Hoka11 wrote:

Sopa de Sabadell wrote:

While true, there are a bunch of advantages too. Money, top notch training and recovery facilities, elite training partners and lots of time and mental energy freed up to focus on running. All depends on how he is as a person. If he is a mature 18 year old, then all good. If he's a kid, then maybe not so much.

I’d argue that most NCAA athletes have access to better training and recovery facilities than pro-runners, and they don’t have to pay for them typically.

Exactly. While in college you get access to top notch facilities, nutrition, athletic trainers, weightrooms etc the day after you graduate, you find yourself living in a campervan, jumping fences to train in tracks and hiaving to pay for kit, treatment and everything else.

Record this wrote:

$50k per year plus bonuses for guaranteed 10 years and all college paid. $50k bonus for making Olympic team for example. He should be able to average close to $100k per year plus have college paid for 8 years if he wants.

Hobbs will make more than 100k per year, bank on it!

Exponentially more, if anyone thinks he is getting less than Drew Hunter, they need to know how to watch tape and read a result.

He is going to be trained by Tinman and Sketchers will swoop in at the last minute to make him an offer he cannot refuse.