Have any elite athletes spoken out AGAINST Shelby yet?

Whitey Houston wrote:

Obsa Ali has played the race card. I don't know how much more he expects. She has a 4 year suspension but he wants her to be thrown in jail maybe? He somehow thinks it would be worse if she were black.

he’s not saying that. He means because she is a white american, she has more sympathizers because of it compared to like Asbel Kiprop who everyone wanted out of the sport and had no one backing him up because he’s african

Maybe OT qualifiers don’t want to be distracted by the drama until after the trials. Kara might have a contractual agreement that prevents her from commenting.

also american sprinters. Everyone shat on Justin Gatlin and Christian Coleman when they got their bans. Didn’t see nearly as close to many people come to their defense. I bet if they got banned for the same reason Shelby did, most people’s stance would be much different

There are lots of reasons why athletes may not speak out, most notably the OTs are starting soon and maybe they don't want to think about this circus.

Also, it's pretty big news, and one needs to process it unless you are like BTC and already know.

Obsa Ali is right on, anyway.

Peppermint Patty of York wrote:

nina_sjl wrote:

Chelimo

https://twitter.com/Paulchelimo/status/1404582598764945412

He's one to talk.

Yea, that's a totally naïve and stupid statement. Does he really think 100% of people that have ever doped have been eventually busted or had it come out? Please.

This is why the world sucks. Most humans cannot logically process information, and instead come up with "beliefs" like karma and religion to answer that which they do not understand.

jocko johnson wrote:

STEVE THE ADDICT^^^^^^""""-""""-'-"--^' wrote:

I doubt many if any will. I think it goes without saying that she did wrong. No need to kick your peers when they're down. People remember personal attacks and what goes around comes around. She knows what she did. No need to beat a dead horse. Actions speak louder than words.

You wouldn’t kick someone when they are down if they stole thousands of dollars from you?

That's pocket change to me. I'd just ignore them. No use wasting my time on losers. That thousand bucks won't make them a happy person anyways.

Paul Chelimo speaks out, hmmmm. Remember what I said about projecting? This guy is not clean and it's pretty obvious.

gretchen weiners wrote:

It matters because you normally have Emma Coburn or Kara Goucher and other white American accomplished athletes slinging dirt at foreign convicted dopers then when it hits close to home they're somehow innocent? Don't start a Clean Sport Collective group but then decide just because she's a friend or she's a white American athlete under an assumed clean coach/group that there's no way she's doping. The street goes both ways and the silence is deafening

they haven’t said anything or even liked anything on twitter...

they will probably say something in the following days lets calm down

but it they side they shelby they are HUUUGEE hypocrites and i wont be able to look at them the same

Hejendo76 wrote:

Whitey Houston wrote:

Obsa Ali has played the race card. I don't know how much more he expects. She has a 4 year suspension but he wants her to be thrown in jail maybe? He somehow thinks it would be worse if she were black.

he’s not saying that. He means because she is a white american, she has more sympathizers because of it compared to like Asbel Kiprop who everyone wanted out of the sport and had no one backing him up because he’s african

Or we think Asbel's "payment for tea" was a more ridiculous idea than tainted meat, which has at least worked in the past as an excuse, in some manner.

But the reality is we can't have it both ways. When there is only suspicion, many people like to beat the "they've never tested positive" drum, but when someone actually tests positive, it's "some other excuse that explains it." You can't have it both ways.

How many positive tests have had outcome of person straight out admitting it versus putting out excuses in some form?

I'll wager the vast vast majority deny and have excuses. Some may come around eventually and confess, but in the beginning almost all deny and use excuses. This is the point we are at in the Shelby story. We have the AR holder in the 1500 and 5000 being busted for doping. So we have two things now: positive tests and performances no American has ever had.

AlohaState wrote:

Maybe OT qualifiers don’t want to be distracted by the drama until after the trials. Kara might have a contractual agreement that prevents her from commenting.

Kara Goucher was on the press conference as a member of the media, as she is I guess providing color commentary for NBC? I'd imagine she'll share some thoughts as she's commentating women's distance events, but it's not appropriate for her to be making strong comments on this either way.

BS wrote:

NERunner0353 wrote:

Don't be thick. Look at all of the love being shown by the general running community eating up well crafted Nike/BTC talking points. Do you remember when Ajee Wilson went through her tainted beef episode. Nobody was defending her. Race/gender affect all avenues of life. It doesn't hurt your whiteness to acknowledge that that is helping Shelby out rn.

There were lots of people defending Ajee - you just choose not to hear them. All I see on major news sites is "Athlete tests positive blames burrito" that doesn't exactly sound supportive......

I didn't say anything re: Wilson, and seems like the process worked out. Shelby likely doped, but I would also like to hear some expert opinion (not trolls from letsrun uploading an article from pub med, and claiming themselves experts because they lip read and mouth breathed while glancing at the abstract). Give the other pros and pundits a bit of time also figure this out. I hate the average letsrunner.

Europeans not falling for the burrito excuse after all European cyclist have already tried the contaminated meat excuse

https://twitter.com/jamiewebb800/status/1404709098411769857?s=21

NAZ Scott Fauble's burrito mafia shirts are going to skyrocket in value after this.

Oh Please wrote:

Peppermint Patty of York wrote:

He's one to talk.

Yea, that's a totally naïve and stupid statement. Does he really think 100% of people that have ever doped have been eventually busted or had it come out? Please.

This is why the world sucks. Most humans cannot logically process information, and instead come up with "beliefs" like karma and religion to answer that which they do not understand.

But what is he even saying? The truth hasn't come out yet and everyone will eventually know that Shelby was clean OR the truth came out and her cheating was exposed?

Mason Ferlic liking Shelby is doping tweets. Safe to assume the whole Very Nice Track Club doesn’t believe the excuses

Athletes have slung dirt at Rupp and Farah for years without a shred of evidence other than, "if you know, you know." Now they're willing to let Houlihan skate because she doesn't look like the kind of person that would dope? Is that it? I don't know where this willingness to give her the benefit of the doubt comes from.

Facts: she had 2.5 times the permissible amount of nandrolone in her system. She can provide no evidence at all that the meat she ate was contaminated. A receipt for a burrito you are isn't proof of what was in that burrito. Her case basically comes down to, believe me, please

Phil Gaimon has a decent thread on Twitter. Joe Gray came after her on Twitter as well and got into a scuffle with Bromka over it.

runderun wrote:

Athletes have slung dirt at Rupp and Farah for years without a shred of evidence other than, "if you know, you know."

Patently false.

Brilliant.